ETF2L – Latest activity in “mandatory weapons?”

ETF2L – Latest activity in “mandatory weapons?” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-31597/ Reply by Selektionsfaktor https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-31597/page-2/?recent=535864#post=535864 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=31597&post=535864 Mon, 25 May 2015 01:33:06 +0200 Reply by Jane Doe https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-31597/page-2/?recent=535864#post=535687 ]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=31597&post=535687 Sat, 23 May 2015 11:43:16 +0200 Reply by Selektionsfaktor https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-31597/page-2/?recent=535864#post=535682 Quoted from Scissors

[...] when it comes to building sentries exclusively, the stock wrench is actually a tiny bit faster than the jag due to a bug related to the upgrading animation. ;-)

Huh, do you have more info on that?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=31597&post=535682 Sat, 23 May 2015 03:42:40 +0200 Reply by HR https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-31597/page-2/?recent=535864#post=535675 Quoted from Scissors

[...] when it comes to building sentries exclusively, the stock wrench is actually a tiny bit faster than the jag due to a bug related to the upgrading animation. ;-)

Well if that's the case then it's obviously bad, how long has that been the case?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=31597&post=535675 Sat, 23 May 2015 00:59:35 +0200 Reply by Scissors-HL https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-31597/page-2/?recent=535864#post=535671 Quoted from hr

lol I thought the big earner was that gun that rewards for backstabs, turns out that is the diamondback, just a mistake. But the jag I absolutely would say is mandatory, ok if it's less than a second then it's not a huge upgrade but still the time it takes for the sentry to be put up on last is a huge deal and the melee damage is completely irrelevant as you'll never be meleeing some one.

when it comes to building sentries exclusively, the stock wrench is actually a tiny bit faster than the jag due to a bug related to the upgrading animation. ;-)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=31597&post=535671 Sat, 23 May 2015 00:22:31 +0200 Reply by HR https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-31597/page-1/?recent=535864#post=535669 Quoted from Bloodis

[...] Personally I don't see any situational use even for these in 6v6, I don't think that you need any more cloak time after you stab someone as at that point you should already die as a Spy after getting a pick, and neither is it good to suddenly die to a single rocket/pipe or a meatshot with only 100hp if you make a one mistake while being cloaked. And well, I just don't find Jag useful in any situation, sure if saving less than a second of time is that important for somebody then Jag might be useful, but other than that it's not mandatory to have at all. Of course you wouldn't go in front of anyone to melee people so that's not the case, but I just don't see how you would point it to be mandatory.

lol I thought the big earner was that gun that rewards for backstabs, turns out that is the diamondback, just a mistake. But the jag I absolutely would say is mandatory, ok if it's less than a second then it's not a huge upgrade but still the time it takes for the sentry to be put up on last is a huge deal and the melee damage is completely irrelevant as you'll never be meleeing some one.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=31597&post=535669 Sat, 23 May 2015 00:12:58 +0200 Reply by Bloodis https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-31597/page-1/?recent=535864#post=535666 Quoted from hr

Spy - The Big Earner Engineer - Jag (m)

Personally I don't see any situational use even for these in 6v6, I don't think that you need any more cloak time after you stab someone as at that point you should already die as a Spy after getting a pick, and neither is it good to suddenly die to a single rocket/pipe or a meatshot with only 100hp if you make a one mistake while being cloaked. And well, I just don't find Jag useful in any situation, sure if saving less than a second of time is that important for somebody then Jag might be useful, but other than that it's not mandatory to have at all. Of course you wouldn't go in front of anyone to melee people so that's not the case, but I just don't see how you would point it to be mandatory.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=31597&post=535666 Fri, 22 May 2015 23:05:51 +0200 Reply by DamnEasy https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-31597/page-1/?recent=535864#post=535663 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=31597&post=535663 Fri, 22 May 2015 22:27:29 +0200 Reply by DamnEasy https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-31597/page-1/?recent=535864#post=535662 Quoted from hr

[...] You mean the escape plan? I don't think the equalizer is any good, is it?

I've used it since it got put on the whitelist, its really good]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=31597&post=535662 Fri, 22 May 2015 22:26:58 +0200 Reply by HR https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-31597/page-1/?recent=535864#post=535661 Quoted from damneasy

[...] You forget equalizer

You mean the escape plan? I don't think the equalizer is any good, is it?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=31597&post=535661 Fri, 22 May 2015 21:57:05 +0200 Reply by DamnEasy https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-31597/page-1/?recent=535864#post=535658 Quoted from hr

If you call a weapon a gimmick weapon doesn't that mean that it doesn't have a situational use? I guess if you want a list of the non default weapons that are useful in a certain situation or otherwise then it probably looks a little like this; ( (m) means it's almost always run) Medic - Kritz, Crusader's Crossbow (m), Ubersaw (m) Demo - Loose Cannon, Pain Train (m), Quickiebomb launcher, Scotsman's Skullcutter Soldier - Gunboats (m), Concheror, Pain Train, Escape Plan (m), Black Box, Direct Hit Scout - Winger, Boston Basher (m) Pyro - Flare Gun, Powerjack (m), Degreaser (m), Detonator, Manmelter Spy - Ambassador, L'etranger, The Big Earner Engineer - Jag (m) Sniper - Shahanshah

You forget equalizer]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=31597&post=535658 Fri, 22 May 2015 21:43:26 +0200 Reply by HR https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-31597/page-1/?recent=535864#post=535653 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=31597&post=535653 Fri, 22 May 2015 21:21:34 +0200 Reply by BOON_ https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-31597/page-1/?recent=535864#post=535651 Quoted from Pete_

bison for spamming crowded choke points 8)

Double Bison on Process choke :^)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=31597&post=535651 Fri, 22 May 2015 20:53:31 +0200 Reply by popcorp https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-31597/page-1/?recent=535864#post=535648 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=31597&post=535648 Fri, 22 May 2015 20:23:40 +0200 Reply by Adeel https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-31597/page-1/?recent=535864#post=535643 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=31597&post=535643 Fri, 22 May 2015 19:49:55 +0200