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    	    <title>Reply by Lorave</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-30562/page-2/?recent=517472#post=517472</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[The soldiers in pickup are either div3 or 6, the scouts are either 3 or prem. it's a blast.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 11:34:10 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Scissors-HL</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[The teambalance on pickup is so fucking horrible that I think random teams would be better most of the time. It's amazing just how often it manages to fuck up, maybe this is why it feels like div 3 level, because you have to have play 1v6 half the time]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 10:55:34 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by joesefff</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-30562/page-2/?recent=517472#post=517470</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from TaylorSwiftFan100</i>
		<blockquote>pickup isnt bad but no one can tell me its div3+, 12 y/o bosnians and yurisa proving you wrong</blockquote>

tru dat
I'd say the strong average is 4.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 10:51:59 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by DHK</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[pickup isnt bad but no one can tell me its div3+, 12 y/o bosnians and yurisa proving you wrong]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 09:26:48 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by gilad1280</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Kaneco</i>
		<blockquote>[...]


Tf2pickup level is definitely higher. And the rules even state its not the place to learn competitive tf2

Chances are if you're gonna play in tf2pickup as your first competitive experience you will be banned.</blockquote>
tf2pickup in a nutshell:
div 2-3 tryharding scouts (that are most likely to offclass A LOT).
div 5-6 soldiers
div 3 maybe higher demos that are not playing main.
div 4-6 medics.

so when you look at the log now it makes sense that scouts are at the top of the dmg done with 300 dpm, while sollies and demos struggle to put theirs above 200-250.
I don't really think you'll come to div 3-4 pcws or mixes and see this.
you'll actually see more "balanced" skill level teams.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 07:40:33 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by HR</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from juan</i>
		<blockquote>yeah dont forget about dustbowl, big hr plays there! he even has a pub fragclip to proove it</blockquote>
And where does regular size j0ly play then?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 01:07:42 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by j0ly</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[yeah dont forget about dustbowl, big hr plays there! he even has a pub fragclip to proove it]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 00:45:51 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by HR</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-30562/page-1/?recent=517472#post=517453</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Fuxx</i>
		<blockquote>skial badwater and skial harvest is usually visited by several competitive players so you're bound to get some decent challenges there from time to time</blockquote>
Don't forget that skial dustbowl bro.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 00:44:17 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Raptor00X</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from CHERRY</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
http://logs.tf/439254?highlight=76561198025176040
Didn't get banned so don't worry :)</blockquote>
cause everyone likes you :D
i would say pickup is div 5+,even if there are div 6 players, i've never seen an average div under 5]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 00:40:16 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CHERRY COKE</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-30562/page-1/?recent=517472#post=517441</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Kaneco</i>
		<blockquote>[...]


Tf2pickup level is definitely higher. And the rules even state its not the place to learn competitive tf2

Chances are if you're gonna play in tf2pickup as your first competitive experience you will be banned.</blockquote>
http://logs.tf/439254?highlight=76561198025176040
Didn't get banned so don't worry :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 23:13:11 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by torden</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-30562/page-1/?recent=517472#post=517394</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[The level of TF2 pickup doesn't really matter - it's beyond these newbies!

Big thanks for linking those servers, hearts and smiley faces.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:03:34 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Permzilla</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Kaneco</i>
		<blockquote>[...]


Tf2pickup level is definitely higher. And the rules even state its not the place to learn competitive tf2

Chances are if you're gonna play in tf2pickup as your first competitive experience you will be banned.</blockquote>

I'm not an expert in either of these pickups since I basically never play in them, but I'm pretty sure TF2Pickup is nowhere near a div3 level. TF2Center is basically non comp/div6 and TF2Pickup is mostly for players already in comp but that doesn't mean the skill level is div3...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 16:58:30 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kaneco</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Permzilla</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

?</blockquote>


Tf2pickup level is definitely higher. And the rules even state its not the place to learn competitive tf2

Chances are if you're gonna play in tf2pickup as your first competitive experience you will be banned.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 16:46:26 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Toregant</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-30562/page-1/?recent=517472#post=517378</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Skial Badwater 1 - 94.23.226.200:2010

Reddit EU - 31.186.250.227:27015

German HQ CP maps - 193.192.59.128:28115

German HQ Payload - 193.192.59.128:27915

German HQ Valve - 193.192.59.128:27815]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 14:24:54 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by XO</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-30562/page-1/?recent=517472#post=517375</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[HH servers are good to ip:78.32.51.115:27015 server 1, server 2 178.32.51.115:27025 and server 4  178.32.51.115:27045 there are some comp players who go on those servers and good maps to.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 13:48:29 +0100</pubDate>
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