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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Amputator and Oberdose - buff?&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by DamnEasy</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-28009/page-2/?recent=485041#post=485041</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Fuxx</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

It baffles me to no end

"hey why don't you use the winger"
<em>"because it has a smaller clip"</em>
"you can jump higher with it and does more damage"
<em>"but the clip size"</em>
"you reload it in half a second why does it matter-"
<em>"MUH CLIP SIZE"</em>

???</blockquote>

but the clip size...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2014 03:09:16 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by PhaNtom666</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-28009/page-2/?recent=485041#post=485031</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I waited 24 hours for this forum ban to run out just to say one thing,

What's an oberdose?
I like how you still have that retarded name.

oh wait thats two things....shit.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2014 01:25:43 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Hovis</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-28009/page-2/?recent=485041#post=485007</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Fuxx</i>
		<blockquote>You say that as if it what primary the medic uses made any significant difference when he has a scout on his face.</blockquote>

Just look at what Harbleu and Mirelin can do...

Edit. Sry I sounded like a douchebag then, had a bad day. &#60;3]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:53:35 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Fuxx</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-28009/page-2/?recent=485041#post=485006</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[You say that as if it what primary the medic uses made any significant difference when he has a scout on his face.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:47:18 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Hovis</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-28009/page-2/?recent=485041#post=485005</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Kissakala</i>
		<blockquote>I think the Crossbow needs the nerf that it had for a while. The one that a bunch of people got mad about, and were stating that it's utter shit and completely useless.
That's what made it such a good <strong> sidegrade </strong> to Syringe Gun, not an upgrade.
Amputator surely could use some sort of a buff, but since Valve does not know how to apply a right amount of buff, they'd just make it overpowered. Overdose is fine atm, tbh.</blockquote>

Crossbow still sucks compared to needles when it comes to dealing with scouts that actually know what they're doing.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:42:18 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Xacher</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-28009/page-2/?recent=485041#post=485002</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spike Himself</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
Same applies to The Winger in 6v6, barely anyone is using it.</blockquote>
Winger got a buff though, Black Box never changed since the release.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:34:42 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Fuxx</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-28009/page-2/?recent=485041#post=485000</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spike Himself</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Same applies to The Winger in 6v6, barely anyone is using it.</blockquote>

It baffles me to no end

"hey why don't you use the winger"
<em>"because it has a smaller clip"</em>
"you can jump higher with it and does more damage"
<em>"but the clip size"</em>
"you reload it in half a second why does it matter-"
<em>"MUH CLIP SIZE"</em>

???]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:24:50 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-28009/page-2/?recent=485041#post=484999</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Carlos Kaiser</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
Incorrect. For example the Black Box was added to highlander a long time ago, but people realized that it is actually good just a year ago.</blockquote>

Same applies to The Winger in 6v6, barely anyone is using it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:18:59 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Xacher</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-28009/page-2/?recent=485041#post=484998</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from MCbanana</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
Yeah usually you can easily determine how usefull a weapon is just by seeing the amount of people actively using it in comp</blockquote>
Incorrect. For example the Black Box was added to highlander a long time ago, but people realized that it is actually good just a year ago.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:13:14 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kissakala</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-28009/page-2/?recent=485041#post=484997</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I think the Crossbow needs the nerf that it had for a while. The one that a bunch of people got mad about, and were stating that it's utter shit and completely useless.
That's what made it such a good <strong> sidegrade </strong> to Syringe Gun, not an upgrade.
Amputator surely could use some sort of a buff, but since Valve does not know how to apply a right amount of buff, they'd just make it overpowered. Overdose is fine atm, tbh.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:11:19 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by profix</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-28009/page-2/?recent=485041#post=484989</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Fallen</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

To be fair, the only times i have seen him successfully use it against us is when the round was already 99% guaranteed...</blockquote>

I wouldn't say 99% but it was definetly in our favor. :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 19:01:18 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Fallenxien</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from profix</i>
		<blockquote>Homer J uses it to great success during our last pushes. :)</blockquote>

To be fair, the only times i have seen him successfully use it against us is when the round was already 99% guaranteed...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:27:35 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by profix</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-28009/page-1/?recent=485041#post=484977</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Homer J uses it to great success during our last pushes. :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:31:29 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by MCbanana</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from ian</i>
		<blockquote>Guys, I finally asked for comments about my ideas, everybody know that amputar is useless now.</blockquote>

Yeah usually you can easily determine how usefull a weapon is just by seeing the amount of people actively using it in comp, i have never seen a person use the amputator after the set removal, its that useless now, taunting is really only viable on medieval servers now.

And really even though you can theoretically heal alot of players with the taunt in comp no one would be stupid enough to use it except when the enemy team would be wiped, however it would be a high priority to build uber in that case so we must assume that its a wipe AND that the med has a full charge. However if they have wiped the enemy team and have full charge then they should push so the only scenario to use this weapon in comp would be to taunt after a push that wipes the enemy team whilst having uber and stacking on a point when everybody has taken 100 damage before or more.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:29:21 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by thetucnak</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-28009/page-1/?recent=485041#post=484955</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Guys, I finally asked for comments about my ideas, everybody know that amputar is useless now.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:07:33 +0100</pubDate>
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