ETF2L – Latest activity in “Crusader's Crossbow or stock Syringe gun?” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22331/ Reply by Katerfas https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22331/page-3/?recent=413291#post=413291 Quoted from Ace
[...] zomg stop revealing our tactics :( But yeah, we use crossbow for at least four rollouts. It's such a integrated part of our metagame now, I don't think I could ever switch back to needles.
prem secrets right here ;-))]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=22331&post=413291 Sun, 14 Oct 2012 11:29:23 +0200 Reply by Askjell https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22331/page-3/?recent=413291#post=413016 Quoted from crouton
[...] Elem.v has a roll-out that relies on xbow. Shrike jumps to mid pretty fast and lands on the ramp in ramp-room. He then stands there and waits for Ace to come into left-yard from second. Ace shoots an arrow at him and Shrike is on mid with ~170 HP and can jump to enemy ramp-room before the enemy soldiers get out of it. Saw it once on the last game they played on vtv, it failed horribly though :d
zomg stop revealing our tactics :( But yeah, we use crossbow for at least four rollouts. It's such a integrated part of our metagame now, I don't think I could ever switch back to needles.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=22331&post=413016 Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:21:24 +0200 Reply by Animal https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22331/page-3/?recent=413291#post=413007 Quoted from No Brain
Why do you people who support needles only talk about scenarios where the medic is alone with an enemy? Most of the time that is not the case, maybe in div 6-5 you end up like that a lot and have to defend yourself but as soon as you get to higher divs you don't get into those scenarios very often. If you push main on badlands last you can still shoot arrows on your teammates as you run back to graybridge. I can guarantee that you will hit arrows on either your mates or on the enemies, no aim required. Besides if you can't aim arrows maybe you can practice?
if you are shooting arrows instead of simply healing someone it should mean ur alone tho.... :mindfuck:]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=22331&post=413007 Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:32:59 +0200 Reply by Spike Himself https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22331/page-3/?recent=413291#post=412974 Quoted from No Brain
Why do you people who support needles only talk about scenarios where the medic is alone with an enemy?
Presumably because thats the only time you're ever going to use needles.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=22331&post=412974 Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:41:16 +0200 Reply by No Brain https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22331/page-3/?recent=413291#post=412952 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=22331&post=412952 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:39:24 +0200 Reply by rumia https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22331/page-3/?recent=413291#post=412910 Quoted from byte
even if you can't admit it to yourself that you suck with the bow and are trying to find an excuse to use the Syringe
Still better than pretending that you are good with crossbow, keep spamming when it's much better and efficient to use medigun, miss every arrow and constantly drop teammates because you are busy trying to get frag clip material. Oh, never get away from scouts without a help of freshly spawned dropped (also, frustrated for a particular reason) teammates.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=22331&post=412910 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:30:26 +0200 Reply by Spike Himself https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22331/page-3/?recent=413291#post=412903 Quoted from byte
Is interesting to see how people think about the crusaders crossbow, you do realize that you can do the same amount of damage approx as the syringe in the same time?
If you hit. It's a bigger gamble if you don't have the aim. Missing one needle is not as big a deal as missing one crossbow arrow ^^ edit; yeah i hadn't read the rest of your post yet.. derp :D]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=22331&post=412903 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:08:50 +0200 Reply by byte https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22331/page-3/?recent=413291#post=412900 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=22331&post=412900 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:55:06 +0200 Reply by Dukermons https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22331/page-3/?recent=413291#post=412895 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=22331&post=412895 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:24:45 +0200 Reply by svins https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22331/page-3/?recent=413291#post=412892 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=22331&post=412892 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:13:28 +0200 Reply by croaton https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22331/page-2/?recent=413291#post=412889 Quoted from Koala
DM wise syringe gun for sure.. The only thing what you can argue about is how utilizable health arrows are. I personally haven't seen a medic who utilizes health arrows good enough to compensate the lack of of dm with crossbow. Though I haven't watched medics almost at all but even at i46 you could see good medics going into gambling and failing hard. Remember one episode where Shade missed quite a lot arrows on snake last.. In my opinion, playing with crossbow is like trying to make plays, which is dangerous.. So it's what Vanilla said, if you like gambling, go with crossbow. But a smarter answer of course would be - try both and see which one you enjoy and feel more comfortable with.
Elem.v has a roll-out that relies on xbow. Shrike jumps to mid pretty fast and lands on the ramp in ramp-room. He then stands there and waits for Ace to come into left-yard from second. Ace shoots an arrow at him and Shrike is on mid with ~170 HP and can jump to enemy ramp-room before the enemy soldiers get out of it. Saw it once on the last game they played on vtv, it failed horribly though :d]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=22331&post=412889 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:03:21 +0200 Reply by Strayeed https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22331/page-2/?recent=413291#post=412884 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=22331&post=412884 Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:00:46 +0200 Reply by skeej https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22331/page-2/?recent=413291#post=412726 Quoted from nTraum
[...] mind = blown
]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=22331&post=412726 Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:50:39 +0200 Reply by controL91 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22331/page-2/?recent=413291#post=412724 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=22331&post=412724 Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:32:56 +0200 Reply by Juniorsatan https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22331/page-2/?recent=413291#post=412723 Quoted from Admirable
The flaregun already has passive reload.
mind = blown]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=22331&post=412723 Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:27:43 +0200