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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;MGE to Matches&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by h1</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[i play dm whenever im bored, and 10mins before games so it gets my reactions and timing all smoothed in, so im not frigid within the first few rounds.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 17:33:44 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Bighomer</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Play soap TDM that's a mix between 6on6 and mge it may help you.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:35:45 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Koeitje</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[I'm shit at MGE, I do better in games. It's all about reading the game and hitting the shots you can hit. In MGE you need to focus that one guy, but in 6v6 you can choose to shoot the target that gives you the most damage or helps the team the most.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:39:36 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by gLongas</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from flix</i>
		<blockquote>back in the day we played pickups 24/7 to become good!</blockquote>

back in the day we played dm_store 24/7 to become good! * fixed]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:45:58 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by flix</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22110/page-1/?recent=398677#post=398214</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[back in the day we played pickups 24/7 to become good!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:26:23 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by MightyMe</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22110/page-1/?recent=398677#post=398037</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Playing alot of MGE gives you more experience on any 1v1 situation you will get to during a 6v6. Badlands middle for example.
When I play pocket soldier or demoman and I sit on our train, and an enemy soldier is jumping at us from window or just their side, I airshot him way more often than I would have if I didn't play as much MGE as I do.
(talking about soldier because I have seen you playing soldier on mge)
Playing MGE overall gives you better movement, better aim, and gives you more experience that you can use in 6v6. The most important part I think is if you want to put the "MGE Experience to Matches" is that you need to pay alot of attention, and focus on what is important.
If you play granary and jump on to the crates, you will see a total of 11 other players, 6 of those from the enemy team. Just blur out everyone else apart from the enemy soldier that is about to jump at you, and just think about the mge practice that you played and you will be more succesfull.
Playing Ammomod MGE trains you on ground battles more, for example if you were to fight against a soldier-medic combo in badlands choke, you can think of a ammomod mge arena and just pretend you are having 1v1 mge battle :D
Playing DM is really personal choice, some people dislike MGE and only play DM, and vise-versa.
I don't enjoy playing DM (especially as demoman)*, because you are way to vulnerable and in 90% of the sitations you are getting bombed by 2 scouts and 2 soldiers as soon as you set foot to the middle point of that map. Not to mention tryharding scouts who chase you from badlands middle all the way to spire, or soldiers who keep spamming choke so it's impossible for you to jump at them. In MGE you can just !remove and join a different arena vs an oponoment of your choice.

TL;DR You just need to visualize whatever happends in 6v6 and think back to your mge experience and you will succeed more. And what you also need is alot of gamesense, which is sometimes more of a gift than something you can train alot.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:05:05 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by dodgydogman</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Play ultiduo, its far better for dm, good for pockets to learn more about their medic and way more fun.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:43:05 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Sideshow</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22110/page-1/?recent=398677#post=398028</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[The only solution is to play more MGE.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:39:45 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by MInd-</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-22110/page-1/?recent=398677#post=397885</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[You said you play pocket so it makes sense MGE != match. In matches, most opponents try to jump your medic instead of you. So your MGE experience on prediction is different.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:46:09 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Drack1993</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Thanks for your replies guys, shall definitely play more DM in that case!

<i>Quoted from Wiper</i>
		<blockquote>the MGE-stuff will start to show (although it looks like it already does quite abit judging from Spike's youtube videos of you).</blockquote>

i don't perform like that all the time; they are the best bits or highlights of games

<i>Quoted from mustardoverlord</i>
		<blockquote>if you're playing a class that gets heals (pocket/demo/scout on some teams), take your time and make sure your shots hit, unless you're like stranded with 20 hp (but then you prolly wont win a fight anyways)</blockquote>

i play pocket, so it makes sense now that because i have more hp, i can take more time placing shots

<i>Quoted from Regen</i>
		<blockquote>The only thing that might help is like.. some shotgun aim i guess? Even my rocket aim is heavily reliant on the map</blockquote>

would the arena "ammomod [MGE]" help with aiming purely because it is a flat circular arena?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:40:42 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by pure vanadium</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Today, LZ, gran middle, be there.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 12:16:07 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Regen</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Unless you're standing on the spire and there's just one enemy solly around trying to jump you, it's not going to help much.
In mge most people win by using the 'unfair' advantages anyways, for example, i know where there's like 'invisible bits' so when they try to shoot me they shoot the wall and do self damage or just don't hit me.
The only thing that might help is like.. some shotgun aim i guess? Even my rocket aim is heavily reliant on the map, because it's just so easy to predict where people are going when you play badlands spire 500 times.
I suggest you play DM as has been said, it's pretty enjoyable too :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 06:25:23 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by mustardoverlord</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[if you're playing a class that gets heals (pocket/demo/scout on some teams), take your time and make sure your shots hit, unless you're like stranded with 20 hp (but then you prolly wont win a fight anyways)

if you're on the flanks, you're probably fighting someone also with no heals, so just focus on positioning, working with teammates there, having decent movement when fighting other projectile classes, and not missing easy shots

in general, if you're hitting all ground rockets and most of your shotgun on heavy classes, with some shotgun on scout, that's good enough. at very high levels being able to hit sick airshots/directs or 2 shot a scout with solly shotgun might matter, but otherwise it is your positioning/teamwork that should matter

in general, try not to overkill targets, keep some ammo just in case]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 03:22:44 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Wiper</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[It was a big challenge for me too to get as comfortable in 6v6's as I am in MGE, but at the moment I actually feel like playing in 6v6's is more comfortable and i play better there than on an MGE match. MGE is purely to practise aim and learn common patterns for taking in-game control and be successful. This also eliminates the reason to tryhard on MGE, fuck MGE-points. The reason you feel like you're different in actual games is because you are put up against more and instead of having a ton of 1v1's you're 6v6. For me it was the pressure of thinking "now it counts!" when I was playing, but as you play and advance you will get more comfortable while playing and then the MGE-stuff will start to show (although it looks like it already does quite abit judging from Spike's youtube videos of you).]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 02:32:46 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ghostface</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from smziii</i>
		<blockquote>mge dm has nothing to do with 6v6 dm, play deathmatch instead of mge -&#62; profit</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 02:10:15 +0200</pubDate>
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