ETF2L – Latest activity in “Improving Teamplay” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-18342/ Reply by dodgydogman https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-18342/page-3/?recent=336010#post=336010 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=18342&post=336010 Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:49:06 +0200 Reply by dodgydogman https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-18342/page-3/?recent=336010#post=336007 Quoted from Ash
Don't just play tf2 together. Become friends and you'll find teamplay is much easier to come by because you'll hopefully all be on the same page and you'll kinda know how each other thinks.
The better you get to know people, the more you can understand how they think in general. This is very helpful when it comes to interperating calls, or how a maincaller will tend to think, allowing you to anticipate what they are going to say. Though TALK about your problems, how come up with solutions etc. Go through the maps slowly. Getting someone who is div1 or something to spec your game and give some tough love tends to help. Quoted from dodgydogman
[...] The better you get to know people, the more you can understand how they think in general. This is very helpful when it comes to interperating calls, or how a maincaller will tend to think, allowing you to anticipate what they are going to say. Though TALK about your problems, how come up with solutions etc. Go through the maps slowly. Getting someone who is div1 or something to spec your game and give some tough love tends to help.
Quoted from Hildreth
*COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH*
Get something for that cough bro.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=18342&post=336007 Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:47:37 +0200 Reply by Hildreth https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-18342/page-3/?recent=336010#post=334549 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=18342&post=334549 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 06:05:19 +0200 Reply by GibbZ https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-18342/page-3/?recent=336010#post=334478 Quoted from minimoose
[...] Not always true, you can adjust your style to suite other players, it just depends what works best. It's more important that there are good calls. Saying that, I'm pretty stuck in my style of going balls deep as every class (yes as medic too) and find it hard to play passively.
irl too from the looks of your pretty blonde locks.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=18342&post=334478 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:09:17 +0200 Reply by skeej https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-18342/page-3/?recent=336010#post=334428 Quoted from dauk
[...] Well now your saying that digging well with a spoon is better than doing nothing.
I'll help you on your proposed analogy with my "saichology" skills dauk. It's like digging with a spoon while there's also a shovel at hand. The time you can invest in TF2 is limited, so it'd be best to make efficient use of that time. So why look at eachothers' pov if you can use other methods to improve your teamplay more effectively. I actually agree on reading that article about TF2 logistics and flow. If your team is in a stage where the clear flow and dynamics of the game aren't fully clear yet, then you won't have a general feeling of when to push, how to push, and where your teammates are. Most of this feeling will come through play,play,play but I think that "points" guide is one of the most effective ways of explaining TF2 flow. Don't treat it as dogmatic, but as a good pointer on what to do as a team in which scenario. If you're all on the same "wavelength", then comms will suddenly become more meaningful and therefore will be responded to more adequately.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=18342&post=334428 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:24:53 +0200 Reply by Minimoose https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-18342/page-3/?recent=336010#post=334420 Quoted from jackkai
you work well together.... or you do not.
Not always true, you can adjust your style to suite other players, it just depends what works best. It's more important that there are good calls. Saying that, I'm pretty stuck in my style of going balls deep as every class (yes as medic too) and find it hard to play passively.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=18342&post=334420 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:11:07 +0200 Reply by jackkai https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-18342/page-3/?recent=336010#post=334411 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=18342&post=334411 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:39:51 +0200 Reply by Jonathan264 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-18342/page-3/?recent=336010#post=334410 Quoted from toogyboogy
[...] :DDD
ethug next to leave. You heard it here first folks]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=18342&post=334410 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:36:32 +0200 Reply by Mould https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-18342/page-3/?recent=336010#post=334402 Quoted from Hildreth
Totally disagree you need people to have the right attitudes to improving aka modest, not stubborn and arrogant as well as people who have ears and use them. No one man can change a team if they all have appalling attitudes to improving and make the same mistakes week in week out.
Yay, passive aggressive win! I think improving teamplay simply will come with time. There's not much point trying to rush it, you might not 'get' eachother if you force yourself to, more than if you let your teamplay develop on itself. Not that you shouldn't try to work as a team.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=18342&post=334402 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:28:45 +0200 Reply by Skully https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-18342/page-3/?recent=336010#post=334400 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=18342&post=334400 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:19:42 +0200 Reply by E-thug https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-18342/page-3/?recent=336010#post=334392 Quoted from WARHURYEAH
Constantly threaten to fold if your team doesn't improve. And that's how elem.v went from div6 to div2. The end.
:DDD]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=18342&post=334392 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:29:46 +0200 Reply by Ari https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-18342/page-3/?recent=336010#post=334389 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=18342&post=334389 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:07:57 +0200 Reply by Spike Himself https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-18342/page-3/?recent=336010#post=334387 Quoted from dauk
[...] Then prob nightbox will finish his lobby thing faster than you will improve your div.
Logic. Logic everywhere! :D]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=18342&post=334387 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:59:02 +0200 Reply by Dauk https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-18342/page-3/?recent=336010#post=334385 Quoted from Spike Himself
[...] Which is true :)
Then prob nightbox will finish his lobby thing faster than you will improve your div.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=18342&post=334385 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:51:44 +0200 Reply by WARHURYEAH https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-18342/page-3/?recent=336010#post=334383 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=tactics&topic=18342&post=334383 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:47:50 +0200