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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;wrong steam id&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kop</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-4808/page-2/?recent=98832#post=98832</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Lol this guys main class is medic, so i doubt he is hacking TF2. but hey watch out for the needle gun headshots. ;)

Also the VAC ban was from CS when he was testing an aimbot and got caught, lets face it who has't tried one to see if it worked.

I played CCS maybe 2-3 times. and the only time i enjoyed it was the 1 time i tried an aimbot, tried it for 5 mins then left the server. i never got a VAC ban, so maybe he was just unlucky.

People who say they have never tried 1 talk shit, coz i hate CCS but i tried one just to see it if worked. it did, and it still about sent me to sleep.


Also why would he register on ETF2L an account that does't even have TF2? 
so maybe it is wrong as he states. 

How the hell is he suppose to play TF2 on an accout that does't have TF2... lol</blockquote>

I can safely say i have never thought about trying a h4x and i have deffinately never installed/used one. How you can say people talk shit if they have never tried 1 is beyond me, i'd like to think 75% of this community has never used 1]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:08:51 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Akasazh</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-4808/page-2/?recent=98832#post=94144</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>all i can say is fucking lol.</blockquote>

http://www.qbn.com/topics/597931/]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:42:38 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Lucifer</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-4808/page-2/?recent=98832#post=91379</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[all i can say is fucking lol.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:06:36 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by djshrew</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-4808/page-2/?recent=98832#post=91176</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Lol this guys main class is medic, so i doubt he is hacking TF2. but hey watch out for the needle gun headshots. ;)

Also the VAC ban was from CS when he was testing an aimbot and got caught, lets face it who has't tried one to see if it worked.

I played CCS maybe 2-3 times. and the only time i enjoyed it was the 1 time i tried an aimbot, tried it for 5 mins then left the server. i never got a VAC ban, so maybe he was just unlucky.

People who say they have never tried 1 talk shit, coz i hate CCS but i tried one just to see it if worked. it did, and it still about sent me to sleep.


Also why would he register on ETF2L an account that does't even have TF2? 
so maybe it is wrong as he states. 

How the hell is he suppose to play TF2 on an accout that does't have TF2... lol]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:45:56 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by gryzor</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-4808/page-2/?recent=98832#post=79980</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[For future reference, two things:

Skyride, refrain from trying to helping out in the "Support Forum" section if you have no clue as to what you're writing. Thank you.

SteamIDs can and has been changed on many occasions and denied just as many. Most common is a number or two mixed up or a failed copy&#38;paste so the last one or two digits did not accompany their friends  on paste. In these cases, there has been no problem. 

The easiest way is to contact an admin on IRC.

I wished to clarify this, so people who DID make a simple mistake do not think that creating new accounts is the only way to avoid warnings in matches or play on the public server.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:03:59 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by AnAkIn_</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-4808/page-1/?recent=98832#post=79964</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>

How could you have VAC steam bans before Steam existed?</blockquote>

What do you mean?

@Swiss Cheese: If by "old vac system", you mean VAC1, all the VAC1 bans were either 1 or 5 years, and were from 2003/2004, and all of those have been reverted (and some may be reverted soon).

HL1 and HL2 both uses VAC2 since late 2004, and that's permanent bans. The bans are engine specific (e.g. a player banned on CS 1.6 will be banned from all HL1 games, not Source).]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:05:51 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Koeitje</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-4808/page-1/?recent=98832#post=79952</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>we had that discussion before. 
http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-906/page-1/
but thanks for your open-minded view on that topic :)</blockquote>

Stupid mistake, just 14 year old kid etc are just nonsense arguments. If you are 14 years old and can't understand why you shouldn't cheat or don't understand the consequences you are mentally handicapped.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:48:44 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-4808/page-1/?recent=98832#post=79949</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>to be fair, quite a lot of higher div people also had the "bans on record" thingy and they are still playing, so... Isn't that from the old VAC system, meaning HL1 bans etc?</blockquote>

Could be. But once a cheater always a cheater.</blockquote>

How could you have VAC steam bans before Steam existed?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:31:54 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by drleon</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-4808/page-1/?recent=98832#post=79947</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[This guy got two accounts, the first one is from 2007, and looks like the "old" one since it was over one year ago since he logged in, and both of those accounts got a VAC ban on it, so he managed to get vac banned two times over the past two years. He would prolly be banned more times if he have made more accounts and bought cs.

This tells me he deliberately have cheated alot of times and got busted for it.


Imo you cant really compare that to a guy who have had the same account for 6 years and got vac banned for cheating once in cs when he was 14 :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:28:20 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by waebi</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-4808/page-1/?recent=98832#post=79946</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[we had that discussion before. 
http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-906/page-1/
but thanks for your open-minded view on that topic :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:23:44 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Koeitje</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-4808/page-1/?recent=98832#post=79940</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>to be fair, quite a lot of higher div people also had the "bans on record" thingy and they are still playing, so... Isn't that from the old VAC system, meaning HL1 bans etc?</blockquote>

Could be. But once a cheater always a cheater.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:12:20 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by waebi</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-4808/page-1/?recent=98832#post=79938</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[to be fair, quite a lot of higher div people also had the "bans on record" thingy and they are still playing, so... Isn't that from the old VAC system, meaning HL1 bans etc?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:10:47 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-4808/page-1/?recent=98832#post=79937</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>well, iam definitely not cheating...</blockquote>

lawl stickies lawl.</blockquote>

http://clan-wotr.com/byte.gif

:D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:08:51 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by waebi</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-4808/page-1/?recent=98832#post=79935</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>well, iam definitely not cheating...</blockquote>

lawl stickies lawl.

you know what that is?

DATS
A 
MEATSHOT.

:))]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:06:10 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-4808/page-1/?recent=98832#post=79932</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>well, iam definitely not cheating...</blockquote>

Tell VAC that...

And failure at me for not checking. I just expect people to be slightly more decent than that.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:56:45 +0200</pubDate>
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