ETF2L – Latest activity in “near constant FPS drops in TF2 (& Other games)” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-28307/ Reply by stwn https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-28307/page-2/?recent=489986#post=489986 Quoted from this is evil evil
[...] computer stuff
da - its not a gaming laptop per se but pretty close to one, and I use it more like 8-10 hours a day with half of that gaming.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=support&topic=28307&post=489986 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:53:13 +0100 Reply by Mandse https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-28307/page-2/?recent=489986#post=489972 Quoted from Spike Himself
[...] unless you're convinced the paste that's in there has been applied poorly, i wouldnt necessarily advise replacing it. the trick with thermal paste is that it takes a while to "settle", it needs a good number of cycles (going hot, cold, hot, cold, etc) before it works to its full potential. if you replace it you're just setting yourself back a step for a while.
This was true a few years ago. Some thermal paste brands like Artic Silver, made thermal paste where the thermal paste curing time was very high. Usually it would also be reached after 10-15 hours of running, depending on brand. This was a few years ago and now most (if not all) thermal paste have little or no curing time. With that said, I know gaming laptops very well, and I own one myself. Even high quality thermal paste dries up/is completely evaporated after 4-5 months of use, if you use your laptop 5-6 hours daily as I do, for gaming. Knowing the average gamer, he probably hasn't changed his thermal paste at all since he got his laptop, so changing the thermal paste, if he has heat problems would be a natural step in the troubleshooting process, should he possess the skills to change it himself. Just remember to apply it correctly, and all should be good :)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=support&topic=28307&post=489972 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:13:07 +0100 Reply by Spike Himself https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-28307/page-2/?recent=489986#post=489968 Quoted from Dummy
[...] mkay. will pop it open and replace the paste / clean the dust then, hopefully it'll help xoxo for your help
unless you're convinced the paste that's in there has been applied poorly, i wouldnt necessarily advise replacing it. the trick with thermal paste is that it takes a while to "settle", it needs a good number of cycles (going hot, cold, hot, cold, etc) before it works to its full potential. if you replace it you're just setting yourself back a step for a while.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=support&topic=28307&post=489968 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 12:58:08 +0100 Reply by stwn https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-28307/page-1/?recent=489986#post=489946 Quoted from AnimaL
thermal means it is overheating, limit fps, clean dust and nothing more u can do... util might mean that usage is so low it is lowering the cloak but thats not an issue in ur case and i doubt you are not using dedicated graphics card if its overheating
mkay. will pop it open and replace the paste / clean the dust then, hopefully it'll help xoxo for your help]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=support&topic=28307&post=489946 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 00:25:17 +0100 Reply by Animal https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-28307/page-1/?recent=489986#post=489945 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=support&topic=28307&post=489945 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 00:23:45 +0100 Reply by stwn https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-28307/page-1/?recent=489986#post=489940 Quoted from AnimaL
gpuz-z what is the gray for perf cap? if you hover over it it will show, also if you had log enabled it will be in log file
it says util for two grey blocks, and thermal for 1 purple block edit: it almost feels like besides the heating issue, the intel 4k thing is still being used over the nvidia card, even though it shows otherwise (except for dxdiag which shows intel, so i'm hella confused)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=support&topic=28307&post=489940 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 23:54:41 +0100 Reply by Animal https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-28307/page-1/?recent=489986#post=489933 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=support&topic=28307&post=489933 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 22:53:47 +0100 Reply by stwn https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-28307/page-1/?recent=489986#post=489930 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=support&topic=28307&post=489930 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 22:11:02 +0100 Reply by Animal https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-28307/page-1/?recent=489986#post=489929 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=support&topic=28307&post=489929 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:49:13 +0100 Reply by Mandse https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-28307/page-1/?recent=489986#post=489928 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=support&topic=28307&post=489928 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:47:08 +0100 Reply by stwn https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-28307/page-1/?recent=489986#post=489915 Quoted from AnimaL
That's way too hot even if it isn't causing the drops. Use cpu-z and gpu-z logging feature to see clock rates of gpu and cpu to see if its temps that cause throttling. P. S. You are on laptop so get used to fps_max feature
@.@ No idea if this is what you meant as I'm retarded with computers and mostly in general, but GPU-Z says GPU clock 835 MHz, memory 900 MHz, Boost 950 MHz and the same stats for Default Clock edit: ignore that, im p. retarded - im guessing the 'sensors' tab is the one I need to look at. what's a good range =s?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=support&topic=28307&post=489915 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 20:16:05 +0100 Reply by Animal https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-28307/page-1/?recent=489986#post=489905 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=support&topic=28307&post=489905 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 19:25:35 +0100 Reply by stwn https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-28307/page-1/?recent=489986#post=489897 Quoted from this is evil evil
As it was already mentioned, check your GPU for temps. Use an app like speedfan or similar to check temps. Also, make sure your games are set to utilize your GT650M and not your Intel HD4000 graphics card. So check your NVIDIA driver's power settings, and also your laptops power settings and make sure they are set to "High Performance" when your power is plugged in. Also make sure the power cord/AC adapter is working properly. If the laptop is running on battery, the graphics card can't perform. If you have not already done so, get the newest GFX driver for your system: http://www.nvidia.co.uk/download/driverResults.aspx/73882/en-uk - There was a lot of driver issues with switchable graphics in the past (2-3 years ago)
cheers - already did some of it. Pretty sure games utilise the nvidia GPU as the 'nvidia GPU activity' thing in the toolbar shows usage from any game I run. I'll reinstall the drivers again, and also going to check the temps in game xoxo 8) edit: ran cs:go for a while and after 10~ minutes of playing with bots it dropped to 15-25 fps as before. temps showed 94 max for CPU, 89 for GPU ('tis a laptop)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=support&topic=28307&post=489897 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 18:59:39 +0100 Reply by Spike Himself https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-28307/page-1/?recent=489986#post=489796 that heavily loaded.. http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=support&topic=28307&post=489796 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:55:23 +0100 Reply by Mandse https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/support/topic-28307/page-1/?recent=489986#post=489787 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=support&topic=28307&post=489787 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 09:39:24 +0100