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    	    <title>Reply by konr</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[I use the Logitech G500 and the only issues I have with it are that it's really hard to get used to the censor being at the front end of the mouse, and my pinky finger hangs off the side a bit more than I'd like.

Everything feels like it's a high sensitivity even when it really isn't.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 18:04:08 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Martndemus</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[You could try a Steelseries HD9 mousepad with the mx518. Guess its inbetween a steel and cloth pad. I got this combination and i like it. (more then cloth pad)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 23:00:32 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by derippez</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[RAT5]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 22:56:57 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by torden</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Yeah, I agree. Was actually lucky to get forced to change mats]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 22:33:39 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by KOVACS</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Surprised you were still using the Steelseries SX after so long. 

It's pretty much the best mouse surface ever made for the first 2 months or so before it loses the silicone coating and becomes one of the worst as any hint of moisture results in hand firmly gripping to the surface:/

Avago ADNS-3080/E sensor (Logitech G3 Optical, Logitech MX-518 Optical, Razer Diamondback, Razer Diamondback Plasma, Zowie EC1, Zowie EC2) is the only gaming mouse sensor I know of that can't track properly on the SX.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 21:26:11 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by torden</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Big thanks for all the help. I was skeptical to the MX518 as it seemed to me like a slightly worse g5. However, I got to try it at a friend's and I liked it.

There are 3 improvments vs the g5: Middle mousebutton is easier to click, thumb buttons have a better "click" feedback, and it doesn't have the braided cable that so easily tangles and breaks. I'm also curious to see how well the right mouse button holds up, as that was the first one to "break" with both my G5s. 

I got mine yesterday, and it already feels just as good/better than my old G5. But, there were some things I needed to adjust to:

1. It didn't track well on my steelseries aluminium mousemat, so I had to change for a cloth one. This, however seems to be an upgrade, and I'm currently enjoying it more than my old mat. But, for anyone set on sticking with their aluminium one, stay away.
2. It uses USB polling rate of 125mhz by default. This = 8ms response time, which is bad. I found a way to fix it here (win7):  http://www.ngohq.com/news/15043-how-to-increase-usb-sample-rate-in-windows-vista-7-a.html
Currently using 500mhz, but the process could have been easier, and I know f.ex Exfane hasn't been able to get it to work on his computer.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 21:12:07 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Matuka</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[I've used quite a few mice in the past year, going on from a SteelSeries Kinzu to the MX518 and finishing off at the Microsoft WMO 1.1a (And I &#60;3 it to bits).

When I first started out playing Counter-Strike Source, I was hypnotized and misled by SteelSeries - I thought they were the best, foolish me. I purchased a SteelSeries Kinzu and loved it. It was a big upgrade from my everyday Asda optical mouse. This was back when I didn&#039;t even know what DPI was. Soon I figured out the flaws of the mouse, it had prediction and acceleration (Bare in mind that at the time I was a CS:S player, majority of us disliked acceleration and still do). 

I soon started making excuses such as &#34;It was too small&#34; (Which it really was, my pinky still hurts from all that mouse-mat scraping) or &#34;The sensor is playing up&#34; just to get myself another horror. 

The MX518 -- Probably the most overrated mouse. I got the 1800 DPI version and loved the shape of it. Whilst at heart I&#039;m a ambidextrous mouse person, I adapted to the MX518 and it&#039;s sleek smooth shape, but months after I still haven&#039;t adapted to the sensor. Again like the Kinzu the MX518 suffers from prediction, it didn&#039;t bother me that much considering that the only two gaming mice that I&#039;ve used in my life-time had prediction, but I found a old gem in my cupboard that shone above them both, and this was when I was getting into Quake.

Microsoft make good reliable mice in my opinion. And the Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical is one of them. It&#039;s that red headed child that lives a society that demands the perfection - and gets neglected. It&#039;s dirt cheap usually ranging from £8 online at amazon (My friend says that they sell them at his local store for $4 CAD). Has a great shape and probably one of the best basic sensors around (STMicroelectronics &#34;Aviator&#34; -- For you nerds out there). I&#039;ve tried it out and it has no prediction, no unwanted acceleration. The only cons I&#039;ve got about it is that it&#039;s got no side buttons. But it&#039;s not like your life is going to change if you don&#039;t have one. It&#039;s a very popular mouse in the Quake scene. This mouse is so great that even a SteelSeries sponsored player uses one with a <a href="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1l_C-PhNQ1Q/TCx60fYr4LI/AAAAAAAAAC4/dNxJgvNZ8mY/P1050321.jpg">SteelSeries sticker</a> on it rather than the Xai/Kinzu (Got the hint yet? It&#039;s great).


brb need to catch some eBreathe.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 00:57:29 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by m-ex</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from torden</i>
		<blockquote>
<strong>Ace of Sweden edge 3200</strong> - Even uglier than the Coolermaster, but getting superb reviews (95% in PC Gamer). 
-Concern: Is it solid? Will the ceramic feet glide well with my aluminium pad? 
</blockquote>

similar to gigabyte m6980]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 00:39:57 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Setlet</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[I've had two MX528's. They both got broken.

Don't buy them :(]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:53:20 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by WabbitsFoot</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Atkins</i>
		<blockquote>http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?q=microsoft+intellimouse+explorer+3.0&#38;um=1&#38;ie=UTF-8&#38;cid=16068404050343843332&#38;sa=X&#38;ei=t9W1TaCKK8Ko8QOuyaDRAQ&#38;ved=0CD4Q8wIwAg#

i have this mouse, ticks every box but man its fugly</blockquote>

Except the scroll wheel, man its shit.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:43:07 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by chippy</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Atkins</i>
		<blockquote>http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?q=microsoft+intellimouse+explorer+3.0&#38;um=1&#38;ie=UTF-8&#38;cid=16068404050343843332&#38;sa=X&#38;ei=t9W1TaCKK8Ko8QOuyaDRAQ&#38;ved=0CD4Q8wIwAg#

i have this mouse, ticks every box</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:35:45 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by BRaH</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?q=microsoft+intellimouse+explorer+3.0&#38;um=1&#38;ie=UTF-8&#38;cid=16068404050343843332&#38;sa=X&#38;ei=t9W1TaCKK8Ko8QOuyaDRAQ&#38;ved=0CD4Q8wIwAg#

i have this mouse, ticks every box but man its fugly]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:11:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by JackieBoy</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[MX518.

BUT, you have to change the mouse skates ! Stock skates SUCK.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:56:02 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by WARHURYEAH</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[MX518 is a pretty decent mouse imo, I had a Razer Deathadder before it died, and before that I had a Microsoft IntelliMouse 3.0 (also very good).

So for the MX518

Pros:
- Incredibly good feel on a mousemat
- Nice grip
- Mousewheel lock is perfect for me, makes a click and holds it, never had a problem with it accidentally flicking up.

Now the only con that I have with this mouse is that it's rather heavy, when I'm frantically picking up the mouse to look around it doesn't feel that comfortable, with my old Deathadder it was a lot easier for me to do.

Also you talked about having easy to reach side buttons, imo the MX518's are rather small, whereas they can be reached easily, they are small compared to ones on the MI3.0

Having said that the weight is a major downfall for me and I've been looking at the Zowie EC1 for a potential replacement, despite the weight it has still served me very well and I would recommend it, the weight thing is just a personal gripe of mine.

Also should mention the price and build quality, I paid about £18 for this, which is a very good amount especially as the build quality on the mouse is very good.

I also know someone who has had the orignial 1600 DPI version since they first came out without any problems.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:35:55 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Infernal17</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from torden</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

What didn't you like about the Xai?</blockquote>

Mainly, i didnt really like the very neutral shape, but i guess thats just personal preference. Its a very reliable mouse though. Ive used it for about 7 months and ive never had any problems with it. The xai prolly fits your needs the most.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:39:36 +0200</pubDate>
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