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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Razer Abyssus or Razer Imperator?&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Arie</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8918/page-2/?recent=150087#post=150087</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Skyride</i>
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Sure you got the mouse accel fully disabled? My Logitech was like that till I realised one day mouse accel wasen't fully off. &#62;.&#60;</blockquote>
Yup, all off. It's exactly like in the video's posted by Spicke.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:45:15 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8918/page-2/?recent=150087#post=150022</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Arie</i>
		<blockquote>I'm still trying to get used to the Imperator's z-axis tracking fail, because I like the shape so much FFFFFUUUUU Razer :P</blockquote>

Sure you got the mouse accel fully disabled? My Logitech was like that till I realised one day mouse accel wasen't fully off. &#62;.&#60;]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:12:41 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Arie</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8918/page-2/?recent=150087#post=150012</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I'm still trying to get used to the Imperator's z-axis tracking fail, because I like the shape so much FFFFFUUUUU Razer :P]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:54:38 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spicke</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8918/page-2/?recent=150087#post=150004</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Razer Imperator Z-Axis Tracking Problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWxd5dXLh5M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZhFKOq8CM8

i now using razer abyssus (450dpi,1000hz) and razer mantis speed, no problem. But there were some problems at goliathus speed ..]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:30:14 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Fanva</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[completely missed the abyssus, looks fucking ace now that ive looked into it a bit.
might be next mouse if/when this one dies.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:52:07 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Defur</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8918/page-1/?recent=150087#post=149963</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I've actually had the deathadder this summer and when i played in Eta, but i didnt really like the deathadder much mostly when i was medic because just resting my hands made me über at times. So i wont get it again,

But so abyssus is good for fingertip doesnt go well on cloth mousepads

and imperator has good shape, worse sensor than DA and has a diagonal moving problem ( that might get fixed? )]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:31:57 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mike</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8918/page-1/?recent=150087#post=149954</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Mirelin</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

"when you move the mouse slowly."

It occurs only when you move mouse slowly. Tell me, where you are in need in moving mouse slowly, in vertycal axis? 

I'm never moving my mouse slowly, to kill somebody, i'm doing a flick by my reflexes, or aim by normal speed.</blockquote>

Lightning gun? Machine gun? Plasma gun? wait nevermind, tf2 is bad]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:56:51 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mirelin</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8918/page-1/?recent=150087#post=149949</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from shape</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Not quite, I use the mouse myself and I can definetely confirm the issue, though it only occurs when you move the mouse slowly.

Here's a  picture I made in paint:
http://de.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=novjls&#38;s=6</blockquote>

"when you move the mouse slowly."

It occurs only when you move mouse slowly. Tell me, where you are in need in moving mouse slowly, in vertycal axis? 

I'm never moving my mouse slowly, to kill somebody, i'm doing a flick by my reflexes, or aim by normal speed.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:31:59 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by shapeart</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8918/page-1/?recent=150087#post=149901</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Mirelin</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

It's bullshit.</blockquote>

Not quite, I use the mouse myself and I can definetely confirm the issue, though it only occurs when you move the mouse slowly.

Here's a  picture I made in paint:
http://de.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=novjls&#38;s=6]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:09:22 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Arie</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8918/page-1/?recent=150087#post=149899</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Mirelin</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

It's bullshit.</blockquote>

The 3500DPI sensor has jitter on some cloth pads.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:07:36 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mirelin</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8918/page-1/?recent=150087#post=149898</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from shape</i>
		<blockquote>the abyssus has a vertical tracking issue on cloth pads
http://razerblueprints.net/index.php/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,99/topic,8611.msg69658/</blockquote>

It's bullshit.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:03:20 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by shapeart</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8918/page-1/?recent=150087#post=149894</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[the abyssus has a vertical tracking issue on cloth pads
http://razerblueprints.net/index.php/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,99/topic,8611.msg69658/]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:55:48 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mirelin</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8918/page-1/?recent=150087#post=149892</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Razer Abyssus for sure! Razer Abyssus is the best mouse for finger grip users. You will cannot find anything much comfortable than Razer Abyssus. 

I do not advice you Razer Deathadder, because this one mouse is for Palm grip users. And it's kinda uncomfortable for finger grip using. I have had to play on it 7 months, and if really, it wasn't comfortable for my style of mouse holding :( .

Good luck, and happy hunting :) . Seems you are lucky, if there is a chance to buy this mouse in your country. Latvia sucks in everything, and sadly, we still dont have a chance to buy this mouse in our country shops.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:53:19 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Arie</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8918/page-1/?recent=150087#post=149886</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<a href="http://ariekanarie.nl/archives/172/razer-imperator-review" rel="nofollow">I wouldn't recommend the Imperator</a>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:41:29 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by J-man</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8918/page-1/?recent=150087#post=149876</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[The deathadders sensor is nice , the shape however is sub par.

The abyssus is an updated salmosa with the 3.5G sensor , same as the new deathadder as far as I can see.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:27:35 +0100</pubDate>
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