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    	    <title>Reply by Dukermons</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8730/page-2/?recent=150955#post=150955</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Sketch</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Fixed for you: A-ha! The grammar Police strike again.</blockquote>

Why thank you good sir, jolly good of you what.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:14:27 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Sketch</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8730/page-2/?recent=150955#post=150948</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Monkeh</i>
		<blockquote>A-ha, the grammar police strike again!!!!</blockquote>

Fixed for you: A-ha! The grammar Police strike again.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:32:39 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by UPS</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8730/page-2/?recent=150955#post=150944</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Well it's always comfortable to blame the videogame content.

"He was a good little boy, but when he started playing that violent Pacman game, he had changed immensely! "]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:24:54 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Anathema</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8730/page-2/?recent=150955#post=150715</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Yes ban violence from televisions and computers, that'll work!
Just like when they prohibited alcohol!!! Oh wait...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:08:13 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dukermons</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Probably because 'the public' is stupid!

Also it's a nice get out clause.  There's nothing wrong with our society, except violence portrayed on tv and in games, BAN IT ALL!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:20:00 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Fluffy Meowington</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8730/page-2/?recent=150955#post=150700</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[There was a similar docu on a german TV station a few years ago where they specifically tested brain activity while playing FPS' and the only conclusion they could draw was that someone who plays FPS a lot would be able to click the mouse faster than someone who doesn't. The whole notion of videogames being responsible for violence is so ridiculous to me, I can't fathom how 'the public' is buying into it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:17:34 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ari</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8730/page-2/?recent=150955#post=150663</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Anathema</i>
		<blockquote>'Witnesses say he had never fired a gun before. Therefore we can conclude he became an expert shooter through these video games'

You have got to be kidding me.</blockquote>

I agree, that does sound a bit off, would be like saying I became a prof tennis player after watching a few games of R.Federer playing on TV.

When thinking about the topic itself, I would probably ask what kind of childhood one has, what is his relationship with his parents and the overall interaction from the community he lives in towards him and the other way around. I can't imagine someone with good morals and respect for others going out, getting a gun and starting killing people for any reason at all. There has to be something seriously wrong in the first place that could impel one into doing something like that in real life.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 03:20:38 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Anathema</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8730/page-2/?recent=150955#post=150654</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA['Witnesses say he had never fired a gun before. Therefore we can conclude he became an expert shooter through these video games'

You have got to be kidding me.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:08:13 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by MasterBlaster</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8730/page-1/?recent=150955#post=150578</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spary</i>
		<blockquote>I dont get it, what choice did you have in GTA 3?

The only choices I remember I had was killing people with guns or running them over with a car or kill them with a baseball bat.</blockquote>

Having sex with hookers then killing them and taking back the money... lots of choices.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:51:35 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by spary</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8730/page-1/?recent=150955#post=150574</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I dont get it, what choice did you have in GTA 3?

The only choices I remember I had was killing people with guns or running them over with a car or kill them with a baseball bat.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:44:58 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Fluffy Meowington</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8730/page-1/?recent=150955#post=150534</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[There's a clip from Psychonauts in this so it must be good.
And it is.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:40:27 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dukermons</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8730/page-1/?recent=150955#post=150532</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I do have a good knowledge of evolution, and I'm afraid you're wrong about eating meat having nothing to do with it.

When we branched from our simian cousins one of the driving forces behind our evolutionary leap was the fact that we started eating meat and sucking marrow from bones that other creatures couldn't get to.  Having a big brain requires eating a lot of calorific food, meat and bone marrow being prime examples.  So, with eating meat and having your big, prehistoric human/ape brain, you would have survived more often than one who didn't suck on dem bones.  Eating meat and marrow kept you alive and got your genes passed on.

I was actually referring to the fact to be a hunter you need intelligence to catch your prey.  Not always, granted, there are plenty of ambush hunters that rely on camoflage or other techniques, but if you look at the smart animals, they are all hunters.  You need intelligence to come up with hunting strategies, working togther etc.  Therfore the cleverest hunters survive more often and intelligence is selected for by our wondeful mother nature.  To be herbivorous requires no intelligence, just the ability to see 360 degrees, live in bigger and bigger packs and run away fast, no brains required here.

Also, we are indeed omnivores, I mean, how many herbivores in the animal world do you know that have incisors and canine teeth?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:27:04 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by waebi</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Monkeh</i>
		<blockquote> Only carnivours require intelligence to survive, hunting, stalking laying traps etc.  
</blockquote>
or going to the supermarket and buying something that has nothing at all to do with the thousands of abused beings. ofc, one needs intelligence for that.

eating meat has nothing to do with us evolving (I guess you mean the "big leap" of having suddenly 3x the brain size somewhere in evolutional history), it's simply not possible and if you had any idea of genetics you'd understand that. Also, we're for the most part herbivores as well, (ye, i might agree on omnivores, cause we CAN eat meat, yet as thinking beings we can also choose NOT to) so the joke's on you.

back to topic, nice docu :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:30:19 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by UPS</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8730/page-1/?recent=150955#post=150457</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Monkeh</i>
		<blockquote>To go one step further you could also argue we would never have evolved if we weren't carniverous, and therefore <strong>loved killing and eating</strong> other living things.  Only carnivours require intelligence to survive, hunting, stalking laying traps etc.  
</blockquote>

If you enjoy killing real living and breathing creatures and then devouring their flesh, there's something seriously wrong with your head, mate. I hope your family is afraid of you and they keep their distance.

On a serious note, this here documentary was very enjoyable, some parts were even nostalgic. I really liked the thought of that american spy for some reason :) Anyway, thanks for the link.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:57:58 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dukermons</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-8730/page-1/?recent=150955#post=150449</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[A-ha, the grammar police strike again!!!!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:46:31 +0100</pubDate>
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