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    	    <title>Reply by Cloud</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-7913/page-2/?recent=126471#post=126471</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I've built before (have a friend who knows his stuff that helped), but I'll admit it was a tedious as fuck process for me nonetheless. How much money would I be losing going to somewhere like this?</blockquote>

Novatech are actually pretty good, as are scan for PC building...

I'd reckon 100/150 ish loss if you buy a prebuilt from them, not sure though, cba to check properly]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:53:25 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kaidus</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Well i doubt you'll want to build your pc if your not too sure what your doing as this will always cause flustration and complications, if money isnt really that much of an object i would suggest the following :-
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/pc/range/iriss.html
(Either of the 2 depends on budget)
Or if you reaaaly dont care about budget
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/pc/range/annihilator&#38;rogue.html
(Spensive)

Anything from novatech is always quality bought from them for years and competative prices. Any of their gaming pc's will last you over 2 years for sure mines 1.5 years old and just bought cod mw2 and runs fine med-high gfx.</blockquote>

I've built before (have a friend who knows his stuff that helped), but I'll admit it was a tedious as fuck process for me nonetheless. How much money would I be losing going to somewhere like this?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:21:32 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by xtala</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-7913/page-2/?recent=126471#post=126367</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>nub question. psu with 500Watts is enough for a c2d E8500 + powercolor 4980 + p5k-se + 2 gb ram. ? :s</blockquote>

Yes, that config will need about 250Watts :p]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:28:26 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Cloud</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-7913/page-2/?recent=126471#post=126333</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Perhaps we should just get a thread for "build this PC on this budget", would make it easy for people... would only need updating every few months :b]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:00:10 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>nub question. psu with 500Watts is enough for a c2d E8500 + powercolor 4980 + p5k-se + 2 gb ram. ? :s</blockquote>

Suppose I'll explain this.

500watt PSU dosen't really mean anything. That Corsair VX-450 I suggested is probably more capable of running either of these systems than a shitty-no-brand 800watt PSU. Generic PSU's are almost always terrible. for example in australia, theres a brand who make crappy PSU's called Shaw. IT techs I know there just refer to them as legalised explosives. :P

So pretty much, that C2D system will run happily on any decent 500watt PSU.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:01:32 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Morty</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[nub question. psu with 500Watts is enough for a c2d E8500 + powercolor 4980 + p5k-se + 2 gb ram. ? :s]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:58:53 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-7913/page-2/?recent=126471#post=126296</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[What size of monitor do you have? Amazing no one has asked this yet. :P

Assuming 22" (or smaller) then this system should do brilliant.

CPU: Core i5 750
RAM: 4GB of the Cheapest quality brand 1333Mhz DDR3 you can find
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P55-US3L
Hard Drive: 500GB Seagate/Samsung (whichever is cheaper where you are buying from)
GFX: ATI Radeon 4890
PSU: Corsair VX-450 (i know its expensive and 450watt dosen't sound like much, but trust me)
Case: Totally opinion and i'll leave it to you, but my advice would be not to get a cheap one.
DVD Drive: Its a DVD drive, it really dosen't matter. Just as long as its SATA, it should be fine. :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:55:42 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Nucl34r</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-7913/page-2/?recent=126471#post=126198</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Just give me a budget with a minimum and maximum and I will configure the best for your bucks..</blockquote>

this, i wanna give it a go aswell]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 12:57:23 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mr Mugabe</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-7913/page-2/?recent=126471#post=126150</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Just give me a budget with a minimum and maximum and I will configure the best for your bucks..]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:12:07 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Excil</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-7913/page-2/?recent=126471#post=126145</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition
    _Alternativ: Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition


    Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P
    _Alternativ: Gigabyte GA-MA785GT-UD3H oder MSI 770-C45 oder ASUS M4A79XTD EVO

    4GB OCZ 1333MHz CL7
    _Alternativ: 4GB Corsair 1333MHz CL9

    HD 4890
    _Alternativ: HD 4870 oder GTX 260 oder HD 5770

    Cooler Master Silent Pro 500W (KM)
    _Alternativ: Cougar CM 550W (KM) oder Enermax PRO82+ 525W oder be quiet Pure Power 530W

    Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB
    _Alternativ: Samsung F3 500GB

    LG GH22
    _Alternativ: Samsung SH-S223F oder Sony AD-7240S

    Cooler Master Centurion 534
    _Alternativ: Xigmatek Midgard oder Antec Three Hundred

all in all about 550€]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:31:32 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by yoxo</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[yeah i think quad is a  must too. but i still would wait a couple of months before getting a dx11 card =)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:12:43 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[after playing dirt 2 yesterday, i wouldnt go for anything less than quad core (i5 or i7) and dx11 card :P

it basicly clearly shows the next years future of gaming]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:05:32 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by yoxo</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[graphics -&#62; I would'nt buy the 5 series yet. When dx11 games come out the NOW GOOD dx11 cards are sucky as fuck. All the games now are not even dx10 yet, so it should take some time (a year- 2?) to get our hands on some dx11 games that arent just testing the new dx (compare to crysis). But yeah, its your money and the card itself is good but not becouse of the dx11 support.

For cpu i7 920 and a cooler (i like noctua coolers) and overclock it to the depths of hell. ~270€ i7 920 (2.66ghz) can easily be oc'd to (3.4-4.0ghz) match the speed of the much much more expensive i7 975 (3.33ghz)  (700-900€?) 
Of course you get better results with the 975 when you overclock it a little but dude, its 2-3 times more expensive.

Motherboard -&#62; asus p6t-se if you plan on buying an i7

Case -&#62; antec p193, love this one. it has like over 9000 fans in it to keep your megapowerful charizard motherfucker cpu cool

sorry about the wall of text, im at work and im bored to the point where i'd rather play table tennis against koreans

(oh look. its almost the same pc that i have) CHEERS]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:39:25 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by tapley</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Well i doubt you'll want to build your pc if your not too sure what your doing as this will always cause flustration and complications, if money isnt really that much of an object i would suggest the following :-
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/pc/range/iriss.html
(Either of the 2 depends on budget)
Or if you reaaaly dont care about budget
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/pc/range/annihilator&#38;rogue.html
(Spensive)

Anything from novatech is always quality bought from them for years and competative prices. Any of their gaming pc's will last you over 2 years for sure mines 1.5 years old and just bought cod mw2 and runs fine med-high gfx.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:13:24 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by jaakkoo</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[If you want to have cpu, what you don't have to upgrade after a year or so i'll suggest getting a quadcore cpu. The reason is pretty obvious: all new games and programs will support multiple cores and the threading is done pretty well. For older games for example TF2 does support 4 cores already. And in games like tf2 it gives you way better fps, since the game itself is really cpu dependent. 

What comes to gpu, i would go for ati's 5 -series for DX11 support. Price/quality aint as good as it is in like 4890 or 4870, but they do support DX11. And if you don't want to upgrade your hardware very often the 5 -series will last longer than the 4 -series. 

For conclusion: get i5 or i7 cpu, good MB and ATI's 5850 or 5870 gpu, and you'll be able to play all the newest games. For RAM i'll suggest 4-8 GB, depending what you do with your computer besides playing games.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 07:25:09 +0100</pubDate>
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