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    	    <title>Reply by jgmaster</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6936/page-5/?recent=107858#post=107858</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>gg;s to everyone in etf2l btw :)

banned... again.. :P</blockquote>

Why would you need a 2nd account?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:55:28 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Madness.</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6936/page-5/?recent=107858#post=107817</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[gg;s to everyone in etf2l btw :)

banned... again.. :P]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:56:16 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by uvio</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6936/page-5/?recent=107858#post=107812</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[the roadmap for the i5 cpu's looks much more afordable.
i7 will get the eXtreme style cpu's, think expensive, like thousand bucks for an upgrade.

the onchip memory controller on the i5, like amd does for some time, pays off more than the third ram channel.

hyperthreading was always bad. especially with games there just isn't the workload to take advantage of it.
single thread/higher core speed when mainly using one core is worth more.

turning off the hyperthreading also helps overclocking the cpu. the gain in performance is much bigger than the advantages from ht.

check anandtech.com or hardocp.com for the reviews, they explained it in depth.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:42:31 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by aeqvist</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6936/page-5/?recent=107858#post=107811</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>
No that is not true, that has nothing to do with it. You can reinstall a OEM how much you want.</blockquote>

if your OEM came with a pc, it'll reinstall as many times as you want, ON THAT PC.

Otherwise, it's just the normal OS but without all the manuals and stuff I assume</blockquote>

If you have the Cd-key and a cd to boot on its no problem. You can change how many parts you want. You might have to call microsoft to activate it but thats not that hard.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:38:46 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6936/page-5/?recent=107858#post=107806</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>
On the source Engine, Hyperthreading gives you reduced performance. :D</blockquote>

I lol'd</blockquote>

Well I heard it off Gryzor a while ago and a quick google confirmed it. ;)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:32:26 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Azured</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6936/page-5/?recent=107858#post=107796</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[For gaming the i5 750 is generally equal to or faster than the i7 920. The i7 has an extra memory lane and supports HT, but the i5 has a more aggressive turbo mode (and has the pci-e lanes built directly into the core itself but this has no impact on performance atm). The extra memory lane has no impact on gaming performance, and HT cannot make up for the less useful turbo mode. They're clocked at the same speed, so it makes sense that the i5 is the faster for gaming.
If you compress archives with winrar for a living, though, it's another matter...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:57:35 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by xtala</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6936/page-5/?recent=107858#post=107780</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[The i5 isn't exactly entry.

i7 is way more expensive, for a marginal increase in performance.
It also locks you into an expensive upgrade path, only the high-end cpu's (920 &#38; the future i9 series) will be released on s1366.

So i5 offers about the same performance (especially in gaming), but it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:02:11 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Madness.</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6936/page-5/?recent=107858#post=107771</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[so definatly not a i7? im confused why would the entry i5 be better than the entry i7?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:40:52 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6936/page-5/?recent=107858#post=107704</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>what about a hard drive ;).</blockquote>

ROFL, my mistake, I forgot to actually write it on the post. The total price includes it, 500GB Samsung F3.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:53:28 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Cloud</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6936/page-5/?recent=107858#post=107702</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
On the source Engine, Hyperthreading gives you reduced performance. :D</blockquote>

I lol'd]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:51:36 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6936/page-5/?recent=107858#post=107701</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>i7 is MARGINALLY better, due to hyperthreading and triple channel RAM.

In real world performance, it's oh.. about 2 fps?  xD

You're better off without hyperthreading a lot of the time too, at least, assuming the tests I saw of i5 vs i7 were right, and i7 will get phased out soon as the i5 is so much more worth it.</blockquote>

On the source Engine, Hyperthreading gives you reduced performance. :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:50:42 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Cloud</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6936/page-4/?recent=107858#post=107700</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<b>Motherboard:</b> Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 Intel P55 - <b>£86.99</b>
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-209-GI


<b>I tried to build the very PC I am using now with this board.  It broke when I tried to O/C</b>


<b>RAM:</b> Corsair XMS3 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 - <b>£94.99</b>
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-169-CS


That's for i7, too high a voltage, so will bugger up the mobo and dimms, and is triple channel


<b>Graphics Card:</b> Point of View - Nvidia GeForce GTX 275 - <b>£166.99</b>
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-022-PV


Not worth it now the 57xx series is out

Edit-- <b>Jesus christ triple post? :&#60;</b>

WHY DOES THIS FORUM NOT HAVE A DELETE BUTTON?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:49:52 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Cloud</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6936/page-4/?recent=107858#post=107696</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>the Real diffrence between retail and OEM is that with retail, you can keep installing windows using that key  but at OEM means that when you change the motherboard, the OEM no longer functions, and is worthless

thats the reason an OEM costs alot less then a retail</blockquote>

No that is not true, that has nothing to do with it. You can reinstall a OEM how much you want.</blockquote>

if your OEM came with a pc, it'll reinstall as many times as you want, ON THAT PC.

Otherwise, it's just the normal OS but without all the manuals and stuff I assume]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:45:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Cloud</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6936/page-4/?recent=107858#post=107694</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>i7&#62;i5???

rofl what a smacktards</blockquote>

2.66GHz Quad Core vs 2.66GHz Quad Core. Am I missing something? Because as far as im concerned, any performance difference there is going to be almost unmeasurably small.</blockquote>price
both, for m/b and the cpu itself</blockquote>

i7 is MARGINALLY better, due to hyperthreading and triple channel RAM.

In real world performance, it's oh.. about 2 fps?  xD

You're better off without hyperthreading a lot of the time too, at least, assuming the tests I saw of i5 vs i7 were right, and i7 will get phased out soon as the i5 is so much more worth it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:44:18 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Cloud</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6936/page-4/?recent=107858#post=107692</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[What a douche, he clearly knows I take this as a challenge :)

ATI Just released the 57xx series, which is MUCH better performance/value, and is getting amazing reviews, so here we go, it includes the latest graphics card in there ;)

PSU: Coolermaster RealPower 520W – http://bit.ly/Ep0te

Case: Coolermaster CM690 V2 – http://bit.ly/17FVbh

Extra Case Fans: 2x Sharkoon Silent Eagle SE 120mm – http://bit.ly/NOL6k

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-P55-UD3 – http://bit.ly/LgtBl

HDD: 500GB Spinpoint F3 (Latest HDD, ridiculously fast) – http://bit.ly/Gd2Wc

CPU: i5 750 (Overclock to 4ghz much?) – http://bit.ly/sexD9

Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro v2 (Includes ze thermal paste, its surprisingly good) – http://bit.ly/26hdq

Optical: Optiarc 24x (Goddamn this is fast) – http://bit.ly/3y4pmd

RAM: 4GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600Mhz – http://bit.ly/dCyMo

Graphics Card: 1GB ATI Sapphire HD 5770 – http://bit.ly/b2twQ

Total Cost: £694.27 (From Scan, it'll be incredibly similar from Overclockers though, if you live so close, just give em this parts list, lol)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:41:38 +0200</pubDate>
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