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    	    <title>Reply by death panda</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6910/page-8/?recent=107074#post=107074</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[To all you guys who complain about a shortage of maps, try regularly play maps other than granary and badlands. Since I joined hb0da we have been playing a large variety of maps like well, freight, turbine and gravel rather than granlands which has made my daily dose of TF2 into something fun and exciting again.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:41:04 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Tony Montana</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6910/page-8/?recent=107074#post=107059</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>tf2 is dead.

I say this as community LEADER, how the game can't be dead when you have to beg people to play a pickup ?</blockquote>
Gay fag is faggety gay whose the gayest gay fag of all the faggety gay fags... and hes a homo. 

:DDD&#60;- safetyss</blockquote>
RayWilliamJohnson :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:11:39 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CaNtThInKoFaNaMe</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6910/page-8/?recent=107074#post=107058</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>tf2 is dead.

I say this as community LEADER, how the game can't be dead when you have to beg people to play a pickup ?</blockquote>
Gay fag is faggety gay whose the gayest gay fag of all the faggety gay fags... and hes a homo. 

:DDD&#60;- safetyss]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:08:16 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by FADe4</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6910/page-8/?recent=107074#post=107056</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[the tf2 scene is weird as fuck, you're games not dying lmao]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:36:26 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by eoN</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6910/page-8/?recent=107074#post=107050</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>TF2 still has 3-4 years left as they've still got the 2 main classes to buff and upgrade and play with. 

Cheers

Byte</blockquote>

I bet you a 5er they wont update soldier next.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:08:49 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by byte</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6910/page-8/?recent=107074#post=107046</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Give me time, i've brought (with the aid of codcrille) the map cp_obscure to the scene, will be available for next season as the majority have requested if you want it in the map pool etc, then i will start my next project another map hopefully etc... 

I agree the same maps are just being over played now too much and it's hitting home with some as it's just getting too boring, as for certain people saying TF2 is dead and "supposedly" leaving we shall see when the "new" games come out MW2 and NS2 are the bigger ones as for l4d2 lol, never be taken competitively on the pc just a good team bonding game for jokes :-), just see who goes and who stays with the games coming out 

TF2 still has 3-4 years left as they've still got the 2 main classes to buff and upgrade and play with. 

Cheers

Byte]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:04:48 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Squeak</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6910/page-8/?recent=107074#post=107040</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[It needs more maps, as stated by other people badlands and granary are over played by far.
So you could just stop moaning and leave, or do something to bring this so called death of tf2 back. Simples :D

EDIT: Just played yukon in a pcw. S'pretty cool map.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:36:31 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Cloud</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6910/page-8/?recent=107074#post=107009</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>stop pretending like this game NEEDS custom maps</blockquote></blockquote>

Yes, it just needs a removal of a few shit official maps.</blockquote>

Becuase you absolutely HAVE to play the "OFFICIAL" maps ;)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:35:16 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Agron</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6910/page-8/?recent=107074#post=106976</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>need better players (well, more good players) and faster gameplay for good spectating</blockquote>

the gameplay is just fine (unless you mean turtlefesting aka Bytetastic-tactics).]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:11:39 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by SEB</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6910/page-7/?recent=107074#post=106961</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[need better players (well, more good players) and faster gameplay for good spectating]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:47:26 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Extremer</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6910/page-7/?recent=107074#post=106957</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>stop pretending like this game NEEDS custom maps</blockquote></blockquote>

Yes, it just needs a removal of a few shit official maps.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:44:45 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Tony Montana</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6910/page-7/?recent=107074#post=106955</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[ban the fan, sorted.

UH OH]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:40:55 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Koeitje</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6910/page-7/?recent=107074#post=106938</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Amount of maps ain't the problem. Look at CS/CSS.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:16:28 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by skinnie</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6910/page-7/?recent=107074#post=106937</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I think the problem is reluctance to change. At the start, new weapons like the Kritzkrieg were welcomed, and now every time there's a new weapon, map etc. there's a vote on whether to ban/allow it or not?

For example, Yukon isn't in the map pool. Why? A map specifically made for competitive TF2, for ETF2L's own map contest, and you decide not to include it in the map pool, despite it being made official.

We're the bringers of our own demise.</blockquote>

sigh u clearly don't get it]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:15:05 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by umami</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-6910/page-7/?recent=107074#post=106935</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>You kids are just plain dumb. You don't even know the definition of "dead" (in relation to games anyway) if you think TF2 is dead. Sure TF2 has gone down hill a bit in recent days. We've seen a definate skill shift as the gap between the upper divisions has definately closed to a tighter level. You could say the skill level of Div1 has also fallen slightly, but still you also have a constant flock of new teams coming into the scene and moving up the ranks. You're only saying TF2 is dead because you want some justification to quit, and also because you're guilty of wanting to quit. It's pathetic and I've seen it in so many games before.


Ta
(p.s. TF2 is not actually dead.)</blockquote>

I agree completly, stop harrasing us with your "tf2 is dead" I really dont give a shit about that, I play the damn game becouse its fun, not to win 1000 dollars on a nerd lan, grow up.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:08:09 +0200</pubDate>
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