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if I wanted to play without perk options and without weapon variety (even merely estethical) I would have played css
This, someone who understands. One thing I loved about cod4 is I had different weapon setups for my mood. If I wanted to take some noobs faces off id go bolt sniper rifle.
If I wanted stealth id use my silenced mp5 with dead silence and uav jammer. etc etc.
Restricting any of that messes up my game mood. Though I can see MW2 going promod because I doubt infinityward will do what valve has done and try to address some of things we have a tftrue for.
if I wanted to play without perk options and without weapon variety (even merely estethical) I would have played css
This, someone who understands. One thing I loved about cod4 is I had different weapon setups for my mood. If I wanted to take some noobs faces off id go bolt sniper rifle.
If I wanted stealth id use my silenced mp5 with dead silence and uav jammer. etc etc.Restricting any of that messes up my game mood. Though I can see MW2 going promod because I doubt infinityward will do what valve has done and try to address some of things we have a tftrue for.
Ye indeed, but some things actually do need to be restricted to make it more balanced. Originally i think they got rid of alot of the perks to make it more skill full rather than just sending a helicopter in to kill people? That stuff is made for publics, and not 5v5 comp play.
By your rational in tf2 we should play it like valve intended, no class limits anyone can use any unlocked weapon.
Comp players always go off and make their own set of rules and limits get over it :p, weather it be tf2, cod4,2,1, any quake game, its just what happens.
The reason they have made a promod is *because* infinity ward dosnt listen to them ;) unlike tf2 where they “kind of” do.
I remember in cod1, essentially everyone in the scene had to sign this one massive petition just to get punkbuster enabled after a year or so.
if I wanted to play without perk options and without weapon variety (even merely estethical) I would have played css
Have you ever played CoD4?
It’s a tad different than CS:S…
I much prefer the movement, maps and style of CoD4 to CSS, but the perks are just too godawful to make it worth it
Promod is real nice but it’s a shame you have to play a promod to enjoy the core game
Dead silence is just bullshit
:D dead silence with a shotgun on shipment = epic win.
lol the pump shotty is the only reason I even played CoD4… and RPG’s… :D
CoD4 straight out of the box is fun for messing around but pretty horrible for any sort of serious play
lol the pump shotty is the only reason I even played CoD4… and RPG’s… :D
CoD4 straight out of the box is fun for messing around but pretty horrible for any sort of serious play
:D true, but looking at CTF etc in MW2, christ, can you imagine how much fun it would be to get a mate on mumble and run a flag like that?
Ye indeed, but some things actually do need to be restricted to make it more balanced. Originally i think they got rid of alot of the perks to make it more skill full rather than just sending a helicopter in to kill people? That stuff is made for publics, and not 5v5 comp play.
By your rational in tf2 we should play it like valve intended, no class limits anyone can use any unlocked weapon.
Comp players always go off and make their own set of rules and limits get over it :p, weather it be tf2, cod4,2,1, any quake game, its just what happens.
The reason they have made a promod is *because* infinity ward dosnt listen to them ;) unlike tf2 where they “kind of” do.
I remember in cod1, essentially everyone in the scene had to sign this one massive petition just to get punkbuster enabled after a year or so.
Yet in tf2 90% of everything is allowed and used.
In comp tf2 we play 2 sollies 2 scouts 1 demo 1 med on average because they are the best. But the other classes are not ignored completely. We have rules not mods in place.
So clearly my rational is not applicable to tf2. Also most leagues allow pretty much everyweapon in tf2. Its also not modded to alter the game. The weapons are just not allowed to be used.
They could have done something simular in cod4 ? but instead tehy made a mod. I understand why, because as I already stated infinityward obviously didnt give much support. I just dont like people fucking with games because they dont like it. find a different game tbh….
so what would we have done if valve didnt listen to any of our requests about tf2?
go find another game?
its quite a different story tho… the concept of cod was already tested and its pretty much an “oldschool” game of its kind if you dont consider a few few very new introduction, while tf2 is something completely new and original with a few mechanics from older games reintroduced and reinterpreted: valve decided to use the community feedback because clearly did know exactly what to expect.
In fact, we are now experiencing a valve more confident about its game, adding new content and changing other things more drastically… think of things like jarate, backburner, ambassador or dead ringer: those are great twists rather than “small new introductions”
what I’m saying is that we are slowly building something completely new and original which is quite far from anything cod 4/6 could ever be: extremely strong franchise and wide community… anything else comes by itself.
Its pretty much like “we infinity award make a sequel to our great game, ANOTHER great game and it prints money for us; if you kids want to mod it, its ok… we already did all we needed to obtain the best profit”… not quite the same for tf2
Ye indeed, but some things actually do need to be restricted to make it more balanced. Originally i think they got rid of alot of the perks to make it more skill full rather than just sending a helicopter in to kill people? That stuff is made for publics, and not 5v5 comp play.
By your rational in tf2 we should play it like valve intended, no class limits anyone can use any unlocked weapon.
Comp players always go off and make their own set of rules and limits get over it :p, weather it be tf2, cod4,2,1, any quake game, its just what happens.
The reason they have made a promod is *because* infinity ward dosnt listen to them ;) unlike tf2 where they “kind of” do.
I remember in cod1, essentially everyone in the scene had to sign this one massive petition just to get punkbuster enabled after a year or so.Yet in tf2 90% of everything is allowed and used.
In comp tf2 we play 2 sollies 2 scouts 1 demo 1 med on average because they are the best. But the other classes are not ignored completely. We have rules not mods in place.
So clearly my rational is not applicable to tf2. Also most leagues allow pretty much everyweapon in tf2. Its also not modded to alter the game. The weapons are just not allowed to be used.They could have done something simular in cod4 ? but instead tehy made a mod. I understand why, because as I already stated infinityward obviously didnt give much support. I just dont like people fucking with games because they dont like it. find a different game tbh….
So your saying if valve didnt support this game that much you would find a different game? or you’d play in crap leagues like ED who probably wouldnt have used tftrue?…fair enough then ;-)
As Pretty much most main leagues in tf2 would have used tftrue(tf2’s promod) as deafult if it wasnt for valves (usually) good support.
TF2 could easily have been in the same situation as cod4.
games gonna be more newb friendly than cod4, competitively it will go nowhere, no pros will play it, no promod will be made, cs players will still mock it, agron will still hate it, cod2 will still be better and more active, if its not dogs or helis it will be a child with a bomb strapped to him.
but ill still buy it for the single player.
and somewhere, at some lan, a dignitas player will dolphin dive and get £10000 for it
lol the pump shotty is the only reason I even played CoD4… and RPG’s… :D
CoD4 straight out of the box is fun for messing around but pretty horrible for any sort of serious play
:D true, but looking at CTF etc in MW2, christ, can you imagine how much fun it would be to get a mate on mumble and run a flag like that?
that shield just looks extremely gimmicky and their opponents were obviously the biggest retards ever to touch a computer or the shield is imba.
either way it doesn’t look fun in the long run. maybe once or twice but you’ll get bored pretty quickly.
i remember cs having some shitty backwards ass shield back in the day…
haha yes that shield was pro. They made it smaller after a while. Was great fun to use, most servers banned it due to people not knowing how to fight the thing.
Also if they had introduced a mod to play this game competitively I would have just stopped playing it that way and stayed on public. People can do what they like as always, theres no rule stopping them.
I also didnt want to get into a discussion on mods. People will always fuck around with games. If it wasnt for that we wouldnt have the ‘awesome’ cs etc /sarcasm .. I actually used to play that game ugh ….
edit : I have since taken a more open mind to modding, as dow2 is currently in balance mayhem I am helping support a mod which just tweaks the balance of the game. Making some units do more damage/less damage as required. Hp changes etc.
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