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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Aware: Steam hackers active again&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4578/page-3/?recent=75694#post=75694</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>they should make https version for retards who cant tell difference between real deal and fraud sites</blockquote>

Not to bash you or anything but what difference would that make at all?

Ok, so lets say hypothetically speaking a steam Hacker. Ive just made my fake steam site in Dreamweaver, but snap! Steam has now put their site on an HTTPS server. No worries!! Lets see, open Apache config, oh! Here we go, 2 parameters in the config file and we're done! SSL certificates cost all of about £2 one off these days so thats not an issue either, Also im sure someone who is already commiting fraud won't mind entering false information into a signup page.

HTTPS only serves to encrypt data incase someone is snooping your connection which has absolutely nothing to do with whats going on here. :)

Personally, Im tempted to make a small site explaining the obvious things that are different (they are not pixel-perfect copies of the original site, at least not any of the ones i have seen).]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:42:50 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by digi</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4578/page-3/?recent=75694#post=75186</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>https://addons.mozilla.org search for "NoScript"</blockquote>
tnx bud]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:03:26 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4578/page-3/?recent=75694#post=75126</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[they should make https version for retards who cant tell difference between real deal and fraud sites]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:40:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4578/page-3/?recent=75694#post=75098</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Point is, they give you a link, and it opens a web-browser, and it all looks EXACTLY like steam. Then you have to put in your pass and account name and voila, they have it. Just never put your pass and login in a web browser.</blockquote>

Not really, just look at the link. It IS different. memorise the real one and don't click links if you aren't sure.
<code>http://store.steampowered.com/</code>
 there, thats the real one, the www. at the start is optional but think of it as phonetics:

steam powered . com

not really too difficult. :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:00:15 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Traget</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4578/page-3/?recent=75694#post=75089</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Point is, they give you a link, and it opens a web-browser, and it all looks EXACTLY like steam. Then you have to put in your pass and account name and voila, they have it. Just never put your pass and login in a web browser.</blockquote>

exactly, i click the links and write some flame in to the login thingy since my friend made one of those sites (yes he did) and he explained how it worked etc.

you can do what the shit you want with the site, as long as you dont give any correct details, there is nothing called "Hacked" only not so smart people signing up

then again, some likes to put keyloggers, scripts etc. so you get infected etc

meh, i havent lost my account yet also Squeak &#60;3]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:15:55 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Traget</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4578/page-3/?recent=75694#post=75090</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Point is, they give you a link, and it opens a web-browser, and it all looks EXACTLY like steam. Then you have to put in your pass and account name and voila, they have it. Just never put your pass and login in a web browser.</blockquote>

exactly, i click the links and write some flame in to the login thingy since my friend made one of those sites (yes he did) and he explained how it worked etc.

you can do what the shit you want with the site, as long as you dont give any correct details, there is nothing called "Hacked" only not so smart people signing up

then again, some likes to put keyloggers, scripts etc. so you get infected etc

meh, i havent lost my account yet also Squeak &#60;3]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:15:55 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Traxantic</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4578/page-3/?recent=75694#post=75065</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Point is, they give you a link, and it opens a web-browser, and it all looks EXACTLY like steam. Then you have to put in your pass and account name and voila, they have it. Just never put your pass and login in a web browser.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:11:25 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kitty jones</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4578/page-2/?recent=75694#post=75041</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[https://addons.mozilla.org search for "NoScript"]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:44:39 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by digi</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[skyride: got url for that no-script plugin?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:15:41 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by DouGie</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[as it happens yeah, my account was hacked, but I didnt click on any link or anything, just signed out and password changed =/

thankfully got it back within 24 hours....


EDIT: Squeak and Jvan have got their accounts back now]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:57:03 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4578/page-2/?recent=75694#post=74936</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I normally hate to get involved in these sorts of flamewars, but... **sigh**

Looks like i'll have to give my 2 cents.

TF2 on linux? It can be done no problem. I've did but rule of thumb is that is if you didn't already know it could be done theres no point.

Anti-virus? Ffs, Common Sense &#62; all +1

There was an interesting article posted a few days ago by someone who works on OpenBSD (the most secure operating system in the world and is involved in developing the linux kernel) about this sort of thing. She herself, who is employed to develop secure, virus proof operating systems stated she does not use Anti-virus for the simple reason that no anti-virus can protect from anything at all then common sense can't.

PROTIP: Use firefox with no-script or Opera (i personally do the latter). Opera is the most secure (and standards compliant if you care) browser there is. I click on all the dodgy links people send me to have a look at the code of each page and what various things they do. What I can tell you is this:

The one i was sent from Squeaks hacker i had a look at, its 100% scripted, it steals it directly from your steam cache.

So ye, 2 main things:

  - Don't waste your time with anti-virus, it dosen't work.
  - Use Opera or Firefox with No-Script plugin.

Cheers,
Adam]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:05:44 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Bammmm</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[NO ANTIVIRUSZOR AT ALL &#62; Win]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:05:29 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Memento Mori</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[squeak sent mine]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:41:11 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Akasazh</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>=[IDK]=JvanW sent me the "vote for me" link, I was 1 second away from clicking. I assume that means his account has bee stolen?</blockquote>

JvW in reqruitment thread:

<blockquote>I realy would like to add you. But my account seems to be hacked. I dont know when i can get it back. Hope to contact you very soon!

Thnx for the reply. ;</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:40:49 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by toasty.</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[=[IDK]=JvanW sent me the "vote for me" link, I was 1 second away from clicking. I assume that means his account has bee stolen?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:03:43 +0200</pubDate>
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