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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Natural Selection 2 &#62; TF2?&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by mulk</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4130/page-2/?recent=65014#post=65014</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA["how i shot web?"]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:46:19 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by DarkXenon</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4130/page-2/?recent=65014#post=64913</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Wow, game looks epic.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:30:27 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Aye Doc</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4130/page-2/?recent=65014#post=63947</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I know ENSL will be ready to hit the ground running, but I am sceptical that competitive NS2 can receive the same level of sponsorship and interest from MGOs etc that TF2 has.</blockquote>

waebi already pointed it out but yeah, tf2's received almost nothing from sponsorship and interest. there are 250~ teams total registered on ESL's site, compared to 2500+ for 1.6 and CSS. it's not an active competitive game and as such there're maybe.. what, 4 teams in etf2l with "legit" sponsors? there's been 0 major LANs in euro tf2's history to my knowledge, and it took a community effort to bring about a reasonable LAN featuring prizes and more than "Fun Tournaments." tf2 has never gotten sponsorship, good MGOs don't really care about it... NS2 might suffer the same fate but to be skeptical of the fact that NS2 can't get 2 decent sponsors to jump into the ring and have 0 LANs over 2 years? it's pretty easy to achieve that!

i wish it were different :(]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:03:54 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by blue magic</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4130/page-1/?recent=65014#post=63932</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[does NS2 have a rocketlauncher?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:04:29 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Memento Mori</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4130/page-1/?recent=65014#post=63922</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[its the shit]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:42:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by howdeh</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4130/page-1/?recent=65014#post=63786</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[NS2 will be one of those new games to experience, it will be far different from any game out there and will be updated constantly to keep the balance. I personally think it will take a while to meet the success of NS in terms of balance, but I'm sure that would be sped up by the players in alpha/beta and players who continously play the game.

I very much doubt the competetive scene will grow to be huge, because much like NS, it takes a while to understand the game, and people don't like change or aren't interested in having to learn over and over; not to mention, the different ways of use between aliens differs alot more than that of from a scout to a heavy. (if you get what I mean :P)

No doubt it will have more players though, I just think it will be one of those awesome public games and a great change to relax from other games. With the new system of modifications on weapons and such, it will take a while for a stable competetive set up, and game play will differ on every server... Depends if [ABLE] is there though... :P

But as GibbZ said, NS is by far the best game I have played due to its unique play style, having a mix of FPS and RTS makes it a game that requires strategic intellegence and perseverance.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:51:09 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by waebi</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4130/page-1/?recent=65014#post=63629</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[sounds like something to try out at least.

mmm.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:23:39 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by GibbZ</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4130/page-1/?recent=65014#post=63624</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[NS is a great game, in my eyes easily the best game for gameplay. Pity about the cosmetics and scene.

But NS2 will be very different and there are some aspects the team is adding which sound very scary and worry the experienced competetive players. But still, like TFC -&#62; TF2, NS2 could be a great success. Atm I'm thinking it's going to 50% be awesome of 50% flop.

Atleast NS2 will have completely different gameplay to all the other big competetive games (CoD4, CSS ect...).]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:11:31 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by fJack</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4130/page-1/?recent=65014#post=63619</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[NS was pretty much dead when TF2 was released so it (tf) definitely didn't draw away players.

NS2 will be interesting. Will always be nice to have another competitive FPS out there that isn't Halo 6 or CoD 17.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:08:56 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by eoN</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4130/page-1/?recent=65014#post=63590</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>From what ive seen NS players <b>(mostly)</b> have bloody good aim and are pretty smart (from the few people ive seen from NS)</blockquote>

You haven't met GibbZ then...</blockquote>

:DD]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:28:49 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Nymthae</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4130/page-1/?recent=65014#post=63588</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>From what ive seen NS players (mostly) have bloody good aim and are pretty smart (from the few people ive seen from NS)</blockquote>

You haven't met GibbZ then...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:23:42 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by waebi</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4130/page-1/?recent=65014#post=63586</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>but I am sceptical that competitive NS2 can receive the same level of sponsorship and interest from MGOs etc that TF2 has.</blockquote>
like... none?

SAFETY SMILEY :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:22:08 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Admirable</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4130/page-1/?recent=65014#post=63585</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[NS2 will be a very different game from the cruel mistress that was NS.
The jury is still out on whether it will be worth quitting TF2 for, but I'll definitely be supporting the game and giving some attention to the beta testing process.

I know ENSL will be ready to hit the ground running, but I am sceptical that competitive NS2 can receive the same level of sponsorship and interest from MGOs etc that TF2 has.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:20:24 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by EXM</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4130/page-1/?recent=65014#post=63583</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>... and Diablo 3 ...</blockquote>
I doubt any of us will live 'till then. Maybe our granchildren will play it? Although doubtfull..]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:18:35 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by eoN</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-4130/page-1/?recent=65014#post=63578</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[From what ive seen NS players (mostly) have bloody good aim and are pretty smart (from the few people ive seen from NS)

Personally I think TF2 wont suffer to badly as Tappers said...

Can't wait for NS2 though, looks very interesting :&#62; But as with all gamesi have no idea if it will live up to the hype or not.

Also looking forward to MW2 and Diablo 3 :&#62; so looking to me that I'm gonna be busy :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:11:33 +0200</pubDate>
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