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    	    <title>Reply by reservoir_dog</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-28376/page-3/?recent=490984#post=490984</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[It's a blatant commercial, but at least they made it well enough.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 15:01:51 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by dodgydogman</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-28376/page-3/?recent=490984#post=490980</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from fraac</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

I really like Dota, but it isn't an elegant game by any means. There's too much breadth. Getting good is 90% research and testing.</blockquote>

Depends what you mean by good. Im only 4ksolo MMR/350wins but I've literally never bought an item out side of what an in game guide suggests, or looked online to explain what heroes to pick. 

This is my first moba so I don't know if its much harder than something like league but if anyone is hesitent to play DotA, don't be, I'm retarded and I do fine.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:12:45 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by BeachTerror</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-28376/page-3/?recent=490984#post=490937</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Marik</i>
		<blockquote>Dota was designed to be competitive ? xD biggest pile of bullshit I've ever heard. People found ways to compete in this game but when icefrog and the rest of the crew made it it was designed to be a causal mod, not AT ALL a competitive game.</blockquote>

I think if Dota 2 wasnt designed to be competitive Valve wouldn't have put 1,000,000s of dollars into it...maybe the original Dota wasn't designed at first to be competitive, but it's a format that clearly works in a competitive environment]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 02:06:14 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by fraac</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-28376/page-3/?recent=490984#post=490933</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from ondkaja</i>
		<blockquote>ITT: tf2 nerds jealous of dota's success and developer support</blockquote>

I really like Dota, but it isn't an elegant game by any means. There's too much breadth. Getting good is 90% research and testing.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:51:36 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by dodgydogman</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-28376/page-3/?recent=490984#post=490924</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Dendi: Loses himself into videos games to distract from his dead father.

HYHY: Juggles school and gaming trying and get the courage to talk to his ex he still loves.

Fear: Stays up too late, keeping his dog up so his mum kicked him out so now he has to use a small desk.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:13:35 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ond kaja</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-28376/page-3/?recent=490984#post=490922</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[ITT: tf2 nerds jealous of dota's success and developer support]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2014 22:16:22 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by WARHURYEAH</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-28376/page-3/?recent=490984#post=490904</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[This thread is so fucking good.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2014 19:36:07 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Carlos</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from fraac</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Yeah, it was Documentary 101 - wheel out the dead dads. Good enough though.

Having now played thousands of hours of Dota I can say 6v6 tf2 is a better game, but even Valve don't understand that.</blockquote>

Have no idea if either of your parents are dead, but its not fun. 

To the second, its personal preference]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2014 19:33:02 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by fraac</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-28376/page-3/?recent=490984#post=490900</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Cheers, you're the highest level cheat I've been trolled by.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2014 19:27:37 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Thalash</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-28376/page-3/?recent=490984#post=490899</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from fraac</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Yeah, it was Documentary 101 - wheel out the dead dads. Good enough though. 

Having now played thousands of hours of Dota I can say 6v6 tf2 is a better game, but even Valve don't understand that.</blockquote>
Idiot.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2014 19:10:36 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Setlet</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Marik</i>
		<blockquote>Dota was designed to be competitive ? xD biggest pile of bullshit I've ever heard. People found ways to compete in this game but when icefrog and the rest of the crew made it it was designed to be a causal mod, not AT ALL a competitive game.</blockquote>

I'm pretty sure Icefrog designed it to be a competitive game after he got the modding rights from Guinsoo. CBA to find sources so believe what you want.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2014 17:12:32 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Marik</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-28376/page-2/?recent=490984#post=490866</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Ah sorry then, I thought you were talking about dota in general in terms of gameplay, not features ^^]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:28:37 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Hajdzik</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-28376/page-2/?recent=490984#post=490865</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I mean DOTA 2 with all comp features. Also how % of TF2 players are playing in some kind of competetive enviroment? 10% and look at numbers how dota is popular comparing to TF2, features in DOTA 2 were more competetive friendly than TF2 ones.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:23:04 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by fraac</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from kronis</i>
		<blockquote>THE FEELS, MAN. But in general, it was good.</blockquote>

Yeah, it was Documentary 101 - wheel out the dead dads. Good enough though. 

Having now played thousands of hours of Dota I can say 6v6 tf2 is a better game, but even Valve don't understand that.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:46:44 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Marik</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Dota was designed to be competitive ? xD biggest pile of bullshit I've ever heard. People found ways to compete in this game but when icefrog and the rest of the crew made it it was designed to be a causal mod, not AT ALL a competitive game.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:27:42 +0100</pubDate>
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