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    	    <title>Reply by Vazzan</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-26259/page-3/?recent=456952#post=456952</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[PS4 has Octodad, nuff said]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 02:03:52 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[neither bf4 or mirrors edge was on sony conference so i dunno, im judging from what i saw in sony conference and i was impressed]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:48:45 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Leshey</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[I mean that the difference between PS2/Xbox and PS3/X360 graphic-wise was more noticeable than the difference between PS3/X360 and PS4/X-One. As somebody mentioned above, BF4 (which is next-gen) looks almost identical as BF3 (which is current-gen). Even Mirror's Edge 2 looks very alike to the first game and there's like 5-6 years difference (assuming it'll come out next year).
I perfectly understand that the graphics aren't the most important part of the game, but the gameplay's aren't changing either and it kind of leaves me at a loss because the next-gen feels like current-gen. That's what I'm trying to say.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:46:02 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-26259/page-3/?recent=456952#post=456939</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[im not sure what games you are playing when you are saying "it looks like stuff we have now"

yes, on pc some games already look like that, but really there is only handful of them and they all require beast pc's that cost much more than 400 euros

sure its not as big of a step forward as when we had ps3/xbox360 but sony gameplay trailers had a few VERY good looking games that were console only and made me want to get ps4]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:22:18 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Leshey</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[I also had some question regarding PS4 exclusives. And I mean the lack of them. But after thinking about it it actually makes sense. All the kickass developers that rocked our world on current-gen consoles have just finished (see Naughty Dog with their The Last of Us) or are still finishing (see Quantic Dreams with their Beyond: Two Souls) their current-gen games and didn't have time for anything new. It's sad that MGS is no longer a PS exclusive but after MGS Rising being a multi-platform it could have been expected. And I don't understand why they're releasing GT6 on PS3? If it was a PS4 exclusive it could have been a console-selling game for Sony imo.
And X-One has absolutely nothing to offer me that I would be interested in. Ryse looked bad ass, but mostly because of the graphics (it's Crytek after all). Titan Fall aslo looked interesting, but I can play it on my PC.
Most of the next-gen games that interest me in one way or another are multi-platform. So I think that it's more of guess whether which platform will have better games in the future. Judging by the PS3/X360 for me Sony ended up in lead and I think that they won't disappoint me in coming next-gen also.

PS is it just me or the dawn of current-gen consoles had more of this "WOW! NEXT-GEN'S HERE!!" feeling? most of the games look practically the same as the stuff we have now graphic-wise and the gameplays don't change also.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:19:38 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-26259/page-2/?recent=456952#post=456923</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[http://www.twitch.tv/twitch

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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 23:37:16 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Neko Neko</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from toogyboogy</i>
		<blockquote>I'm getting the PS4 for Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy alone.</blockquote>
FF15 looked hype~ 


Paying for PS+ isn't really a problem, cuz Im used to paying for Gold &#62;_&#62; now ppl who own a PS3(and have never owned a 360), will bitch about the PS4 having the PS+ :/ PS+ offers great shit anyways so it's not that bad.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 20:38:50 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by inco</title>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:20:15 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by weaselo</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from AnimaL</i>
		<blockquote>[...]PS4 has many cool exclusive titles like destiny and that 1866 game or whats it called. I dont see why would someone want xbox because even PS4 can play fifa AND it costs less too if you want to do it online

Sony obliterated MS in their presentation by allowing trade of used games free of charge and not having the stupid always on requirement even when playing single player games.

Only selling point for xbox is what, kinect? But thats a joke as its more of a tech demo than something you would want to use daily. Also theres literally 2-3 games for it and none are good after 10min of playing around</blockquote>

Sony had games? sorry? and when is retention of a feature a big thing. You also seem to be making a few oversights, mixed signals about the whole offline game thing cos sony did say there would be an online check on game launch. The kinect thing comes with the ps4 and Sony have pretty clearly stated publishers can still lock down used games etc just they won't enforce it

Overall I think there's merits in both but I do find a few parts about both all too depressing, sony will win the internet war cos the reddits love them but the common man only wants a halo machine]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:07:05 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by weaselo</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-26259/page-2/?recent=456952#post=456850</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I want to back the ps4 due to xbox being overly orweillan but I just can't. WHERE ARE THE GAMES SONY

Oh, and PS there's a few interesting things Sony brushed over in their conference. Online play requires PS+, the kinect equivalent comes bundled along with the ps4 (good luck escaping it) and although they don't mandate a used games rate, they have still left the window open for third party publishers to enforce one (and probably will)

I really backed Sony when they had such amazing linux utensils on the PS3 but that didn't work out, mainly due to people buying 33,000 of them and making supercomputers ;D

The twitch and multitasking stuff is really interesting and all the smartglass shit looks all well and good (despite me not having one of those)

Is it just me or did sony not seem to talk about 60fps much in their games? xbox1 made it a talking point (blistering 60 fps!)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:02:54 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by mumu</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Monkeh</i>
		<blockquote>being able to tell someone's heartbeat from the flow of blood through vessels in the face! That smacks of cool stuff to come. 
</blockquote>

I seriously doubt that will work as well as any demo shows, it was the same with the original kinect looks great on paper but in practice its just another gimmick]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:40:43 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by E-thug</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[I'm getting the PS4 for Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy alone.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:47:04 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dukermons</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[So it seems Sony did indeed win the battle yesterday. Amazon pre orders had xbox on top until today. Now ps4 has overtaken it....]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:24:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Neko Neko</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-26259/page-2/?recent=456952#post=456834</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I love the prices Xbox One: 499$ 499€ PS4: 399$ 399€

Gotta wait for a price drop, but for now Il enjoy my PS3/360.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:06:28 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dukermons</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Could get a ps3, but that's not as exciting as brand new tech now is is it. The second hand game thing is no big deall to me. New Kinect sounds pretty cool with being able to tell someone's heartbeat from the flow of blood through vessels in the face! That smacks of cool stuff to come. 

I'm normally good at making up my mind about this kinda thing but I really can't decide this time.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:45:09 +0200</pubDate>
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