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    	    <title>Reply by Dukermons</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-25880/page-2/?recent=475069#post=475069</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Bump, because this video is very awesome, drawing your attention to it has become important to me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiP6uayUk-8

Consider your attention drawn.

Edit: Oh yeah, check out the shadow demon fake out...so frickin' good.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 22:38:56 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-25880/page-2/?recent=475069#post=455878</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[bump for more reading material :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 13:34:24 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Heck</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-25880/page-2/?recent=475069#post=453413</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik4Xf3vyNOU]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 00:20:05 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by dodgydogman</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-25880/page-2/?recent=475069#post=453395</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from T0m</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

The real question is why would you play 200+ games as lich? Atleast play a relevant support like Bane, Nyx or Kotl</blockquote>

http://dotabuff.com/players/34807892

Keeper Of The Fun reporting.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 23:06:37 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by 2nuts</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-25880/page-2/?recent=475069#post=453371</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[add numlocked he is keen as fuck... cant stop talking about dota.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 21:15:43 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Enef</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-25880/page-2/?recent=475069#post=453363</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[crystal maiden way better]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 20:48:20 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-25880/page-2/?recent=475069#post=453343</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Monkeh</i>
		<blockquote>I go charging into team fights before realising I don't have 'Chain Frost' anymore, end up dieing, casting the wrong spells at the wrong time and being generally even more useless than I thought possible, so I went back to Lich and started doing OK with him and really enjoying the whole, 'I deny you lololololoolol and here's some motherfucking CHAIN FROST BITCHES!', thing.

Basically playing any other hero for a while meant I ran round feeding and being useless and that shit aint fun for anyone.</blockquote>

Aye this sounds very familiar :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 19:47:38 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by iDEMO</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from T0m</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

The real question is why would you play 200+ games as lich? Atleast play a relevant support like Bane, Nyx or Kotl</blockquote>
Lich is a relevant support, just because he isn't in the meta doesn't mean hes not relevant, people play him in pubs because hes OP, hard lane Lich is annoying to play against. In safe lane effectively pushes the creep wave towards your carry + a nuke to spam, better than KotL imo. You also have to consider that Bane and Kotl usually need to be in a tri lane with a stun to work.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 19:46:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dukermons</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-25880/page-2/?recent=475069#post=453313</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from dodgydogman</i>
		<blockquote>

Wtf why have you like only played lich? You havent even tried like half the heroes lol.

http://dotabuff.com/players/33274412/heroes</blockquote>

Well now, a story for you. I started Dota with absolutely no clue whatsoever. Never heard of creep waves, last hitting or anything. I picked Storm Spirit for my first match cuz he had the campest introduction, big gay blue thing that he is, amused me no end.

I charge off to 'mid' and cast my first skill on the first hero I see, charge up to towers and end up with something like 0-22-1 with I think 1 last hit.

I then play dragon knight for a bit cuz I saw Chaplain playing him. Then after a few matches I decide to go read a guide or two. They suggest Lich as a good hero to learn the game with.

'Right then' says I, 'Lich it is, let's play him a lot to get used to how the game works.'

After a fair few games I try other heroes and end up using all my mana up real quick as I'm now conditioned by 'Sacrifice' into sub consciously thinking I can re-fill mana very easily...

I go charging into team fights before realising I don't have 'Chain Frost' anymore, end up dieing, casting the wrong spells at the wrong time and being generally even more useless than I thought possible, so I went back to Lich and started doing OK with him and really enjoying the whole, 'I deny you lololololoolol and here's some motherfucking CHAIN FROST BITCHES!', thing.

Basically playing any other hero for a while meant I ran round feeding and being useless and that shit aint fun for anyone.

I found it very hard to break away. Slowly though I have been playing more heroes recently, last night I played a couple of Lich games for old times sake and enjoyed myself. Even got to go mid as well, against a Mirana too, heh, bad times for Mirana.

So yeah, I've played a lot of bot games with different heroes but I'm sticking with support generally now and learning as much as possible.

I do love the Lich though, great fun, awesome lane control and nearly useless past the 45 minute mark. Chain frost though, oooh chain frost.

Notice as well he's got my best win ratio, even after 242 games.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 18:48:45 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by PhaNtom666</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from dodgydogman</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Wtf why have you like only played lich? You havent even tried like half the heroes lol.

http://dotabuff.com/players/33274412/heroes</blockquote>

The real question is why would you play 200+ games as lich? Atleast play a relevant support like Bane, Nyx or Kotl]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 18:00:27 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-25880/page-1/?recent=475069#post=453291</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from dodgydogman</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Wtf why have you like only played lich? You havent even tried like half the heroes lol.

http://dotabuff.com/players/33274412/heroes</blockquote>

Because Chain Frost, obviously.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 17:49:13 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by dodgydogman</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Monkeh</i>
		<blockquote>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5p8_l09rwU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VThgMIR2R3A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Yjih_xSfmw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfAon7S7fL4
http://www.youtube.com/show/dota2failsoftheweek
http://www.dotafire.com/dota-2/guide/how-to-play-lich-in-public-games-3354 (My guide what I rote)
http://www.joindota.com/en/start
http://www.team-dignitas.net/articles/blogs/DotA/1092/Dota-2-Ultimate-Guide-to-Warding/
http://www.youtube.com/show/dota2guide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-DHZG5u0ak

That should keep you going for a while. We should play together sometime, suck together as it were. Sure you missus wont mind.

Edit: Oh, videos blocked huh...damn, some reading in there as well, watch the vids later.</blockquote>

Wtf why have you like only played lich? You havent even tried like half the heroes lol.

http://dotabuff.com/players/33274412/heroes]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 17:34:32 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from TviQ</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
Read? would i give you something to read whats wrong with you</blockquote>

I know! Sadly it's the only option I have right now :(]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 16:52:43 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by TviQ</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spike Himself</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

I cannot "read" a video (it's also blocked here, so I can't watch it either) (pro tip: that's why I asked for reading material! :D)</blockquote>
Read? would i give you something to read whats wrong with you]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 16:50:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Enef</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[http://www.youtube.com/user/PurgeGamers

there's probably one video for each hero in dota 2, sometimes two. You can even watch dota 1 videos if you wanna see what some unreleased heroes are like.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 16:47:48 +0200</pubDate>
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