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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;RSI&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by iMpulse</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-21773/page-2/?recent=399940#post=399940</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[after reading this post, everything started to hurt...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:03:14 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Henghast</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[I've had a few issues historically. Some related to the fact I nearly cut my right hands little finger off and the way it rests on the mouse can really cramp it up badly (I dont have spazzy Jeremy Beadle hands if you're thinking that). 

I've had a few issues with mild RSI though. For the most part I was sat badly using crappy mice at work and then coming straight home and playing. Meaning I was spending 12 hours a day in front of a PC using the same grip, same motions. 

I just swapped hands at work so I use my left hand instead which really isnt a difficult thing to do it just takes a small amount of getting used to and it's just the same. Make sure that blood flow isnt restricted by having wrists at at least teh same level as elbow and if I felt cramp coming on I'd flex and relax my hand a few times until it felt a bit better. If it didnt feel better I'd finish what I was doing and take a break.

I get the same crap when I'm painting a lot. Hand craps and pain because of hours of repetative action. It's just a good idea to take 5 then and go back later when it's not tired and sore.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:23:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Grouver</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-21773/page-2/?recent=399940#post=399862</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[What helped me:
1) Go to the gym to get strength in your arms.
2) Get a ergonomic position.
3) Massage your arms tendons for 5 minutes if it starts to hurt.

How to test if  you are on your way to get RSI?
Stand up and stretch your arms next to you (not in front of you) as far as you can.
Now bend your wrist and stretch your fingers upwards so your fingers have a 90 degree difference with your arm. Feel tention or can't do it, start taking action.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10:53:15 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by randa</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[How can you play games for that 12-15 hours at a time? Baffles me..]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 17:11:06 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by waebi</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[came into this expecting rapid sequence induction. Was disappointed.
I did have a kind of "pins and needles" feeling in my left ring finger/pinkie for quite some time after playing a lot, went away after i stopped and now got a new keyboard, hasnt come back yet. My advice therefore - change your bad habits, "yolo" etc.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 16:51:46 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Hildreth</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[I never had this or even heard of it and I have done stints of 12-15 hours. Is it related to the way you hold your mouse or the way you move your arm around or not playing ping pong regulary enough?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 07:22:17 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kaidus</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-21773/page-1/?recent=399940#post=391425</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Fuck MGE, never touched that shit nigga.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 05:40:42 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by -Swifty-</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from kaidus</i>
		<blockquote>kaidus rsi story</blockquote>

That night of mge/ammomod as demoman :DDD Who was your opponent? Do they know they caused you RSI?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 02:33:11 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kaidus</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[I got hit pretty hard 2 years ago. Had a pretty bad PC setup and played too long without taking a break and bam. From fine to fucked over night. Literally fucked. I couldn't carry a drink upstairs with my right hand, open a can of coke, use scissors, chop food, grind my weed (this was the worst as the weed was naturally a very handy tool during this period), the list goes on and on. Didn't play games again for months (still used a PC cause it was so ingrained on my lifestyle, but I spent my time just watching movies or playing poker with my left hand), went and saw a doctor who was completely useless and pawned me off with some pain killers and anti-inflammatorys (completley ineffective I should add). Didn't really think about it much at the time, I took the doctors response and assumed it wasn't that serious so I just chilled thinking it would go away. It's true to an extent, I stopped using the PC and it got better (better enough to start using the PC again). I couldn't behave how I used to though; I bought a new desk and chair to accommodate the injury, and had to take significant breaks regularly and play barely any games to begin with. This all started around the start of summer, and by the time i40 rolled around at the end of august I was fed up and just jumped back into playing TF2. My hand would ache after not a whole lot of playing, but being the heroic nerd I am I carried on anyway.

Couple years later it's gotten a lot better - still aches if I play for a long time and I avoid games that require too much of me physically. I do stretches regularly and hope to start some restrengthening exercises soon but I plan to consult with a physio prior to doing that. Overall my response to the injury was fucking stupid and I wouldn't recommend being as blasé as I was; I think I'm pretty fortunate not to have fucked myself for life at this point. Bottom line though is that it fucking blows so if you feel symptoms take necessary precautions.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 01:57:28 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by FainT.</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from byte</i>
		<blockquote>...</blockquote>Stop playing a girl's sport

/trollbyte]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 21:33:43 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ghostface</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from byte</i>
		<blockquote>text</blockquote>

Man, screw the Ask Byte thing. Make your own TV show and call it 'Doctor Ahmad'.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 21:21:52 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Gubbins</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from dodgydogman</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
I dont have rsi or really any symptoms, but id hate to get it.
What do you mean by that, like swing it a few times like you would normally?</blockquote>

Basically play imaginary table tennis for that many swings]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:34:13 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by dodgydogman</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from byte</i>
		<blockquote>
It means starting off by getting a table tennis racket or very light racket doing a few strokes every 30minutes.
</blockquote>
I dont have rsi or really any symptoms, but id hate to get it.
What do you mean by that, like swing it a few times like you would normally?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 19:15:52 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by byte</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Best way round RSI is gradual physiotherapy with your wrists, and no that doesn't mean fap fap away.

It means starting off by getting a table tennis racket or very light racket doing a few strokes every 30minutes.

Then once the muscles are strengthened get a squash or badminton racket and swing it left n right 50-100times. Do that once every hour (8 times) for 5 days in a week.

Yes it's a bore and yes it's tedious but in the long term it will help u. Also getting RSI at an early age is such a bad thing fyi.

So I would do some physio asap now while u are young, or quit using the PC.

If you need more medical advice add me on steam or ask me on irc.

Cheers

Byte]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:39:32 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dr Justice</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Arrh.. the gamers affliction. I have suffered from this many times 3-5 days off, take anti inflammatory tablets and ice the affected area, no need for anything expensive the cheap Tesco's ones will do the trick.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:19:34 +0200</pubDate>
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