ETF2L – Latest activity in “GamePlayServers are looking to create a major community!” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19806/ Reply by b10h4z4rd https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19806/page-2/?recent=357756#post=357756 Quoted from kyanite
[...] Proof of that is shown because we have recieved quite a few e-mails!
even I receive hate-mail from IDK members, on regular basis]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=19806&post=357756 Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:57:13 +0100 Reply by kyanite https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19806/page-1/?recent=357756#post=357753 Quoted from Enef
Not really, he's covering his own back with a long paeagraph, whilst the job's i listed are obviously professional descriptions what he is looking for isn't that far from them. He's made many posts on this forum in an attempt to advertise and further GPS's name in the community and we're all thankful for that but he's still asking someone to do what is easentially a full time job for free. If anyone has ever been part od an organisation has ever spoken to the org's management they would understand just how hard it is to do something like this, even if you get all the servers you want for free. Hell ask Spike or any of the nervousENERGY foundera how tough it is to build and run a community, i'm sure they'll agree its like having a second job. Good luck have fun.
Covering my own back with a long paragraph? lol I run an organisation myself. www.team-memento.net Rings a bell? You don't need to really tell me that it's a difficult job - it is, however believe it or not some people enjoy doing things like this. (Proof of that is shown because we have recieved quite a few e-mails!) Plus that one person will have staff beneath him which will make his much easier. Take it from me, I know what I'm talking about. Been there, done it, got the T shirt. It can be slightly difficult to start off - but when you know your in charge of your own community, with teams that are in high places (e.g. our main CS:S team reached EPS Nordic, got into the last 32 of the ESWC Qualifiers and also won the Sweden EMS Qualifiers) you feel a sense of satisfaction. Do you know what my sense of satisfaction was? My sense of satisfaction was that I am helping e-sports develop - particularly with some of the cups I used to run at Team Memento. I knew that I had supported this team with what they required to achieve what they did. The same applies to our other teams who did well such as our League of Legends team who came 3rd at an XL Lan in portugal. It feels great to be benefiting e-sports and helping teams grow and reach their goals. Same goes for our TF2 teams - whether it was our older ones, or newer ones. You are really over emphasizing the job by calling it a full time job. Can you actually expect somebody making a living over sitting at home doing what this job is requires one to perform? Realistically speaking at least. If the answer is yes, then you most likely wouldn't want to imagine what a real job is like. Anyways - bring an end to this. I'm glad you have shared your opinion on the subject. This discussion has been an eye opener.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=19806&post=357753 Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:40:35 +0100 Reply by Enef https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19806/page-1/?recent=357756#post=357703 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=19806&post=357703 Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:37:52 +0100 Reply by randa https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19806/page-1/?recent=357756#post=357681 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=19806&post=357681 Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:37:56 +0100 Reply by Spike Himself https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19806/page-1/?recent=357756#post=357671 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=19806&post=357671 Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:07:45 +0100 Reply by kyanite https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19806/page-1/?recent=357756#post=357661 Quoted from Enef
You realise this is an actual job you are advertising, right? As in, there are people out there who make a living being a "community manager" for companies. A lot of major game companies have community managers and they get paid to do it because ita hard work when done right and they put in a full weeks work to do it. What you're looking for is someone to create a community from scratch and that is far from easy, especially if you're not doing it full time for money. I'm not saying you're wrong for advertising here, i'm just saying what you are asking requires a lot of time and effort, if you find someone to so it for free then well played but you're ripping them off. http://www.riotgames.com/careers/community-manager http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_community_manager http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/11/25/the-four-tenets-of-the-community-manager/
You cannot compare the Community Manager for riot games with what we are looking for. Yes - it is the same job title, however the job title never describes the job as a whole. Different jobs with similar titles vary - just how degrees with the same titles vary due to the content within the syllabus. It is the requirements of the job which determines how difficult and time consuming a job is - not the name of it. We sponsor many organisations and communitys which have different teams of their own and run cups etc. We are just looking for a person who would like to be incharge of this and build up their empire from scratch. Many people dream of having their own big gaming community but the majority never succeed because it costs a lot - particularly servers. We are offering servers for free. We are not ripping anybody off because we are not requesting a Community Manager to do what "paid" community managers do. Do you even know what a proper community manager such as the Riot Games community manager has to do? If you do - then you would know that what we have asked for is peanuts compared to what real professional community managers do. We are merely looking for somebody to take responsibility of a few servers, we provide them along with a website, and they then are required to find teams and players for them servers. That's it. It's not rocket science - what do they get in it for them? Whatever servers they want for personal use assuming they are somewhat successful at their job. Done and dusted really. No need to over exaggerate things because it is quite evident that the Community Managers roles which you are suggesting are not present in the job in which we are offering hence your claim is out of context. Anyways - if anybody has any questions feel free to ask.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=19806&post=357661 Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:06:25 +0100 Reply by Enef https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19806/page-1/?recent=357756#post=357582 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=19806&post=357582 Sat, 31 Dec 2011 04:30:07 +0100 Reply by Fant0m3n https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19806/page-1/?recent=357756#post=357559 Quoted from kyanite
Surely it is small minded to compare this as a real job? We are simply looking for potential people who are interested in leading and building a community - which in return we will provide you with free servers to build your empire on. Simple, right?
You came to the right community my friend, here on ETF2L you have a bunch of nerds who never leave the house who surley will do this for a free server.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=19806&post=357559 Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:11:41 +0100 Reply by kyanite https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19806/page-1/?recent=357756#post=357546 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=19806&post=357546 Sat, 31 Dec 2011 01:48:42 +0100 Reply by Snoozer https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19806/page-1/?recent=357756#post=357531 Quoted from trams
[...]' Free hats!
signed up]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=19806&post=357531 Sat, 31 Dec 2011 00:38:17 +0100 Reply by ashkan https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19806/page-1/?recent=357756#post=357527 Quoted from Spike Himself
[...] Your attitude is killing e-sports.
E-sports is killing my attitude.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=19806&post=357527 Sat, 31 Dec 2011 00:18:41 +0100 Reply by tramsig https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19806/page-1/?recent=357756#post=357504 Quoted from ashkan
What pay?
' Free hats!]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=19806&post=357504 Fri, 30 Dec 2011 20:57:44 +0100 Reply by b10h4z4rd https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19806/page-1/?recent=357756#post=357497 Quoted from Spike Himself
[...] Your attitude is killing e-sports.
OP mentioned it's a job. Not a matter of attitude. Matter of principals. I like getting paid to do my job.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=19806&post=357497 Fri, 30 Dec 2011 20:35:33 +0100 Reply by Spike Himself https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19806/page-1/?recent=357756#post=357459 Quoted from ashkan
What pay?
Your attitude is killing e-sports.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=19806&post=357459 Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:38:41 +0100 Reply by ashkan https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-19806/page-1/?recent=357756#post=357306 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=19806&post=357306 Fri, 30 Dec 2011 12:05:56 +0100