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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Kinzu vs Xai? (or other suggestions?)&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Sketch</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17949/page-1/?recent=326508#post=326508</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[xai works fine with boogiebug or mionix alioth]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 00:23:58 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dr.Tool</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Shifty</i>
		<blockquote>thread hijacking/adding something useful:
I heard the xai really fucks up badly when using some cloth pads, i don't have the money to by a new pad+mouse so does the xai work with a goliathus control ? Any one that has this combo please let me know how/if it works.</blockquote>

well i have a goliathus speed, and it worked horribly for me]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 00:13:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by wild-shifty</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17949/page-1/?recent=326508#post=326501</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[thread hijacking/adding something useful:
I heard the xai really fucks up badly when using some cloth pads, i don't have the money to by a new pad+mouse so does the xai work with a goliathus control ? Any one that has this combo please let me know how/if it works.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 23:58:26 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Koeitje</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17949/page-1/?recent=326508#post=326500</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from quad</i>
		<blockquote>wait till september and get the sensei :)

everything on the kinzu is kinda fixed compared to xai and sensei.

Kinzu: Huge angel snapping, negative and possitive accel is VERY noticeable, the skates are of plastic?

and with xai and sensei you can customize everything, and have a good sensor(when you dont have hairs and dust etc in the sensor)

I will buy the sensei for sure when it comes out.</blockquote>

Agree on this. Kinzu is reaaaaaaaaaaalllly bad. I prefer smaller mice, but the acceleration is all over the place and very noticable. Don't notice it on the xai.

I can reach DA malfunction speed while flicking to rj at low sense, can't do it with the xai.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 23:48:25 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by D4RKSL4Y3R</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17949/page-1/?recent=326508#post=326469</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from TviQ</i>
		<blockquote>xai brakes after 3 month of useage Buy another Deathadder !</blockquote>

iv had mine for a year no issues. DOnt buy the kinzu whatever you do, its pretty bad. Xai is good, but the perfect control speed isnt as good as the DA if your quite a low sens gamer]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:11:52 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Zero_</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17949/page-1/?recent=326508#post=326450</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[xai]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 20:38:24 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by ShiFt_02</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[go for the abyssus (claw grip) or wait for the sensei.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:44:30 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by The7alfa</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Xai]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:39:03 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by TviQ</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17949/page-1/?recent=326508#post=326432</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[xai brakes after 3 month of useage Buy another Deathadder !]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:32:41 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by quadua</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17949/page-1/?recent=326508#post=326428</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[wait till september and get the sensei :)

everything on the kinzu is kinda fixed compared to xai and sensei.

Kinzu: Huge angel snapping, negative and possitive accel is VERY noticeable, the skates are of plastic?

and with xai and sensei you can customize everything, and have a good sensor(when you dont have hairs and dust etc in the sensor)

I will buy the sensei for sure when it comes out.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:01:16 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by y4eHuK</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17949/page-1/?recent=326508#post=326426</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[G400 or Imperator 4g?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:57:48 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by -Flush-</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[what's your reason against buying a 2nd DA?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:53:03 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Created by adam-skyride</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Hey guys.

So I'm needing to get a new mouse (my Deathadder has that broken internal wire issue) and I'd also like to get a new keyboard. Since I'm going to be at i43 in 2 weeks and KustomPC always have a good showing there, I was just going to buy them first thing at LAN.

I've got the keyboard down to either a Filco Majestone or a DAS, but I'm not so sure about the mouse. I half considered buying a deathadder since i'm quite happy with it (aside from the fact it's fucked), but I decided against it. From what I can see looking around, the only mouse that's taken my fancy is the Xai and Kinzu, however I can't really tell what the difference between the 2 actually is? At least enough to justify such a massive price difference.

Although if anyone has any other suggestions (not "I have this and I think it's good" type comments) I'd be happy to listen to it.

If it helps at all, I play with ~30cm/360 plus fairly low sens in SC2.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:51:47 +0200</pubDate>
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