ETF2L – Latest activity in “Totty & Brum riots D:”

ETF2L – Latest activity in “Totty & Brum riots D:” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17886/ Reply by ashkan https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17886/page-8/?recent=325142#post=325142 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=17886&post=325142 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 18:14:46 +0200 Reply by Iplaynaked https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17886/page-8/?recent=325142#post=325131 Quoted from grimbar

[...] it's not an argument, it's exposing ignorant trolls.

Grimbar, you're a cunt I'm amazed at the ignorance in this thread.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=17886&post=325131 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 17:58:22 +0200 Reply by croco https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17886/page-8/?recent=325142#post=325128 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=17886&post=325128 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 17:56:21 +0200 Reply by grimbar https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17886/page-8/?recent=325142#post=325125 Quoted from Mailbawx

[...] How is this an arguement?

it's not an argument, it's exposing ignorant trolls.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=17886&post=325125 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 17:53:30 +0200 Reply by Mailbawx https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17886/page-8/?recent=325142#post=325124 Quoted from grimbar

You didn't just link a quote by Martin Luther King and tried to compare it to this situation, gg (not sure if part of the post you quoted - whoever did this is a mong)

How is this an arguement?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=17886&post=325124 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 17:52:15 +0200 Reply by Shintaz https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17886/page-8/?recent=325142#post=325121 Quoted from Califax

http://a.yfrog.com/img739/3050/5oew.jpg http://youtu.be/fCsrcnUy8ao

These made me laugh. It's good to know there are some decent English people.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=17886&post=325121 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 17:46:43 +0200 Reply by grimbar https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17886/page-8/?recent=325142#post=325120 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=17886&post=325120 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 17:46:10 +0200 Reply by Ramown https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17886/page-8/?recent=325142#post=325118 Quoted from alfa

[...] with that attitude, no wonder the police beat people up

Fuck off you Romanian piece of shit. Okay I made this thread as I woke up hearing about the riots starting here (Birmingham) I watched the news and stuff for around an hour then I saw how serious I was getting, I decided to go and see it for my self since I live around 10 mins from the centre of Brum. I recognised a few people that I know but don't really associate with (Black, white, asians) and I simply asked what everyone was doing, It seemed that of the 30ish people I asked 25 were just seeing for themselves and the other 5 were generic "N*ggers" with nothing going for them. I don't agree with the riots, but it was inevitable, all these rich people are finally seeing what real the cost of these cuts are. People with NOTHING ELSE TO DO. It's not going to stop overnight, parliament need to get of their leather seats and fucking do something, make a half decent decision for once. Also, to all these western Europeans that are talking shit. It doesn't involve you. The writer of the Brum riots tumblr: It’s easy to dismiss the rioters as “scum with nothing better to do” but there are much deeper problems here. As a young, male, ethnic minority in the inner city myself, chances are, I probably know some of these people. I can relate to the feelings of helplessness. I’ve been fortunate enough to be successful as a musician myself and been able to create my own positive future, but these kids rioting don’t see themselves having a future at all. They have been failed by society as a whole, they’ve been failed by the government cutting arts funding and closing youth centres, unemployment is rife to the point where even the ones desperately trying to seek work simply can’t find it, and the boiling point to all this (Mark Duggan events) is a situation that is VERY REAL. I myself have been stopped and searched many times by police for no given reason. They raided my apartment at 6.30 in the morning once while my wife and I were asleep claiming they’d had reports of a disturbance. I’ve been questioned for gang activity that I had no part of, because of how I look and where I come from. It’s simple racial profiling, and whilst that is NOT an excuse for the behaviours of rioters, the sad fact is that it happens. We live in pretty desperate times as a whole, and the inner city youth are at the bottom of the barrel. So whilst this behaviour IS disgusting, try and have some compassion and relate to fellow human beings who literally feel hopeless and don’t see a way out. When you think about, the right emotion to feel in some of the cases is just sadness and pity - kids robbing a flat screen TV when they see an opportunity to… because they know they’ll never be able to afford it. Is a kid robbing some trainers that different to a corrupt politician fiddling the expenses accounts, or corrupt policemen and journalists taking bribes (as we’ve seen in the phone-hacking scandals?). So what kind of example are those people setting? Remember, most of these kids looting ARE just opportunists. It’s only the really violent ones smashing the windows, the rest just go in after them and take what they can. I have faith in humanity and I don’t think that most of these kids are bad people. I really don’t. They are the lost ones, neglected and marginalized, in many cases without the basic education to understand that there are better ways to go about life. You don’t have to condone their actions to have some compassion and to ask yourself, is there anything I can do to help? Even if there isn’t - ranting and dismissing them as animals isn’t going to help. The latter is precisely why many of them act the way they do. I’m not saying you can’t be angry at what they’ve done…but I think we all owe each other a few minutes thought at exactly why things like this happen. Just my own personal thoughts and opinions. You don’t have to agree, but hopefully you can respect them and my right to have them. TL;DR: Don't believe what you hear and only half of what you see. Also this: http://youtu.be/biJgILxGK0o http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpnwqzWKm11qjm9bpo1_500.png]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=17886&post=325118 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 17:34:23 +0200 Reply by Mailbawx https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17886/page-7/?recent=325142#post=325116 Quoted from grimbar

[...] As long as you have internet (as a bunch seem to have - ie. organisation through facebook) you can educate your bloody self. Heck, I learned how to speak and write English on the internet. Stop scapegoating and take responsibility

And how will you get a job with that? Hi, I studied engineering on the internet, no I don't have any sort of certification, sorry. I agree that it is easier nowadays to educate yourself (and it can help you with getting a job), but for most jobs it doesn't mean shit with a diploma.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=17886&post=325116 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 17:28:25 +0200 Reply by Dukermons https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17886/page-7/?recent=325142#post=325113 Quoted from Califax

Those on twitter probably allready knew, but today was operation #Riotcleanup all over britain. Shows the different side of the majority of the brits. http://a.yfrog.com/img739/3050/5oew.jpg http://youtu.be/fCsrcnUy8ao http://youtu.be/Iz7WGzsaHQE

Now this, THIS, is what makes the British amazing. Fuck you chavs, srs. I actually nearly shed a tear at the first pic then seeing people applauding the police car that drives by in the first vid, freakin' awesome.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=17886&post=325113 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 17:20:37 +0200 Reply by The7alfa https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17886/page-7/?recent=325142#post=325110 Quoted from Ramown

http://birminghamriots2011.tumblr.com/ LOL, FUCK DA POLICE

with that attitude, no wonder the police beat people up]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=17886&post=325110 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 17:02:46 +0200 Reply by Iplaynaked https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17886/page-7/?recent=325142#post=325109 Quoted from Tapley ❤

[...] Its because of poor parenting that causes this lack of respect, they go into "gangs" because thats like a surrogate family unit that they've missed out on all their lives because of shit parents, or dad has left or are drunk/drugged. And unfortuantely its one big vicious cycle, because most of these dirty cunts will unfortuantely breed and turn into their parents and on it goes. As drastic as it sounds i'd really entertain the idea of fixing all baby boys from birth so they couldn't breed and you'd have to apply for a license to breed if you were fit enough parents, after all most scummy kids come from scummy parents who don't know how to use a condom. (I sound like Hitler but it is a good idea :] )

maybe we could have babies tapley... I'd really like that]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=17886&post=325109 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:59:03 +0200 Reply by califax https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17886/page-7/?recent=325142#post=325108 http://a.yfrog.com/img739/3050/5oew.jpg http://youtu.be/fCsrcnUy8ao http://youtu.be/Iz7WGzsaHQE]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=17886&post=325108 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:57:26 +0200 Reply by tapley https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17886/page-7/?recent=325142#post=325107 Quoted from Morphine

[...] QFT x10000 I came from a somewhat shitty school, where kids just don't care. Students there used to lock teachers out of classrooms and get into gangs and all sorts of shit. I can name at least 3 people in my year who has been arrested for things like pulling a knife on someone and mugging some lady. They get free education thrown at them and they just don't want any of it.

Its because of poor parenting that causes this lack of respect, they go into "gangs" because thats like a surrogate family unit that they've missed out on all their lives because of shit parents, or dad has left or are drunk/drugged. And unfortuantely its one big vicious cycle, because most of these dirty cunts will unfortuantely breed and turn into their parents and on it goes. As drastic as it sounds i'd really entertain the idea of fixing all baby boys from birth so they couldn't breed and you'd have to apply for a license to breed if you were fit enough parents, after all most scummy kids come from scummy parents who don't know how to use a condom. (I sound like Hitler but it is a good idea :] )]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=17886&post=325107 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:57:01 +0200 Reply by cook https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-17886/page-7/?recent=325142#post=325106 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=off-topic&topic=17886&post=325106 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:56:24 +0200