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    	    <title>Reply by derippez</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from JimmyB</i>
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To be honest I would say not WoW. With Cataclysm theyve really outdone themselves. Ive never had so much fun just questing alone because there are alot of neat little popculture references (for example a quest where you have to escort a giant ogre pushing a minecart and he yells "WE MUST PUSH LEETLE CART" http://www.wowhead.com/quest=14310 ). You will get those references and little tributes to games and movies in almost every quest (one of the new zones for level 83-84 is basically a giant tribute to Indiana Jones, its awesome!). Plus there are alot of ingame cutscenes that keep you up to date with the story progression.

So with the latest expansion, WoW is defo the best MMO in terms of solocontent.</blockquote>

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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 01:07:25 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Sheridyn</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-15182/page-3/?recent=265767#post=265010</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Anathema</i>
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I couldn't disagree with you more. 
In other MMOs you need to literally grind for dozens of hours until you can have any fun. (instances)
Guild Wars was fun right off the bat for me. You don't really need to grind at all.
I do agree that playing by yourself is pretty dull. (but then again aren't all MMORPGs?)</blockquote>

New players need to get their (elite) skills, which isn't too bad, but also the PvE-only skills because they're stupidly overpowered, which requires faction grinding (Sunspear, Kurz/Lux and EotN factions). You're probably looking at at least completing Nightfall and EotN before you can do much of anything with other people, unless you can find a guild who run through campaigns together. I also think it's necessary to equip/skill your heroes since nearly every party uses them these days (because heroes &#62; randoms) except for end-game content (where PvE only skills make life much easier), and that takes a lot of time unless you buy the skill unlock packs. 

Don't get me wrong, I love the game, just think it's not easy to get into atm because there aren't many people out there doing the campaign content these days. 

Buying skill unlock packs = huge help (because then you can learn anything from a skill tome and your heroes have access to every skill right off the bat)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:09:37 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by abdaO.o</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-15182/page-3/?recent=265767#post=264997</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Anathema</i>
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I do agree that playing by yourself is pretty dull. (but then again aren't all MMORPGs?)</blockquote>
To be honest I would say not WoW. With Cataclysm theyve really outdone themselves. Ive never had so much fun just questing alone because there are alot of neat little popculture references (for example a quest where you have to escort a giant ogre pushing a minecart and he yells "WE MUST PUSH LEETLE CART" http://www.wowhead.com/quest=14310 ). You will get those references and little tributes to games and movies in almost every quest (one of the new zones for level 83-84 is basically a giant tribute to Indiana Jones, its awesome!). Plus there are alot of ingame cutscenes that keep you up to date with the story progression.

So with the latest expansion, WoW is defo the best MMO in terms of solocontent.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:17:45 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Nick</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-15182/page-2/?recent=265767#post=264985</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I played it for about a year, then I got bored because the PvE side pretty much died with the addition of Heroes and stuff (everyone just solo'd all the missions). And I never was too much into the PvP aspect of it either, so eh.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:09:42 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Sheridyn</i>
		<blockquote>The problem with Guild Wars is the initial time investment is huge before you can really do anything fun (need to unlock skills, heroes, etc.), and the game is kind of boring in normal mode by yourself.</blockquote>

For PvP you can buy all the skills and weapons etc for a small fee so there's no such thing as a need to grind.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 19:53:51 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by RaCio</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Played it a looooong time ago


Will definately check out gw2]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 19:51:50 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Anathema</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Sheridyn</i>
		<blockquote>The problem with Guild Wars is the initial time investment is huge before you can really do anything fun (need to unlock skills, heroes, etc.), and the game is kind of boring in normal mode by yourself.</blockquote>

I couldn't disagree with you more. 
In other MMOs you need to literally grind for dozens of hours until you can have any fun. (instances)
Guild Wars was fun right off the bat for me. You don't really need to grind at all.
I do agree that playing by yourself is pretty dull. (but then again aren't all MMORPGs?)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 14:52:58 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Sheridyn</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-15182/page-2/?recent=265767#post=264790</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[The problem with Guild Wars is the initial time investment is huge before you can really do anything fun (need to unlock skills, heroes, etc.), and the game is kind of boring in normal mode by yourself.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 11:51:24 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Rbokt</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[i was pretty sure i was gonna get gw2 last year, im not so sure anymore]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 11:45:41 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Anathema</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Yeah do not get Guild Wars, it's a desolate wasteland now (((]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 11:36:00 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Minimoose</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-15182/page-2/?recent=265767#post=264758</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Defur</i>
		<blockquote>Ooooo that sounds nice might be getting it then :D</blockquote>

I think it's pretty dead now, wait for Guild Wars 2. It was impossible to do PvE last time I installed it anyway since no one was on it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 03:07:22 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by arc</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[PvE and Titles in general are all about time and effort put in, although the campaigns can be played through in very short time. 

PvP on the other hand isn't what it used to be. Everyone is running meta builds and you will be forced to run them too.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 02:47:01 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by abdaO.o</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-15182/page-2/?recent=265767#post=264754</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Nmx</i>
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haha, same. I played it for 1 month. :D</blockquote>
same. Twas a good game though but Im more of a PvE-guy.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 02:33:55 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Defur</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Ooooo that sounds nice might be getting it then :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 02:26:04 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Defur</i>
		<blockquote>Does guild wars have a monthly fee?
Also, what's the main diffrences between this and wow?, im not very good with MMO's

I was planning on getting it some time ago, dunno why I didnt tho'</blockquote>

No, you pay for the game (and optionally its expansions) and that's it.

The main difference between GW and other MMOs is that guild wars focuses more on skill than on time and effort put in. The highest level a character can achieve is 20, and it's not even hard to get there. You can equip no more than 8 skills (spells, attacks, etc), which forces you to balance things out and play in groups because you can't equip 8 skills that will work in every situation.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 02:18:40 +0100</pubDate>
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