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    	    <title>Reply by The Sniper</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14888/page-2/?recent=258007#post=258007</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Well my processor isn't exactly breaking world records either(2.0ghz dual core) anyways I want to get a good solid laptop which will run at 50-60 stable(no dropping under) but more is always appreciated ;3 I've had to leave games sometimes because my fps goes so bad (less than 8)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:17:41 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by link.red</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14888/page-2/?recent=258007#post=257994</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I initially put a six year old graphics card in my new i5 build in june at a price of ~€500 and got 100 stabil fps, and I payed more than necessary to get quality parts with good warrenty. A new graphics card for €300 got it up to 200 stabil fps. Not sure about laptops, this was a stationary build, but considering this I find it hard to believe you wouldn't get half of the fps i got for €500 stationary back then, with a €800 laptop.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 21:49:19 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by The Sniper</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14888/page-2/?recent=258007#post=257916</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[well I don't want my fps to ever go below 40-50 in 6v6 is this a reasonable goal or should I aim lower for my budget]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 20:01:08 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by The Sniper</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14888/page-2/?recent=258007#post=257914</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Cool so there are king cards and emperor cards and lowly peasant cards?:D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:54:40 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Tikcus</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14888/page-2/?recent=258007#post=257913</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[graphics card hierarchy

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-graphics-radeon-hd-6870-radeon-hd-6850,review-32039-7.html]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:53:57 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by The Sniper</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14888/page-2/?recent=258007#post=257911</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Again.. just to clarify.. no dells]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:53:02 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14888/page-2/?recent=258007#post=257910</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&#38;c=ie&#38;cs=iedhs1&#38;kc=HDP&#38;l=en&#38;m_30=321942&#38;oc=N0074902&#38;rbc=N0074902&#38;s=dhs

ultimate machine for 800 euros (tho has big screen)

will run anything starting with tf2, and even bad company 2 (obv dx9, low settings)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:51:46 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by The Sniper</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14888/page-2/?recent=258007#post=257908</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Ohshi- that card is bad..
Just to clarify no dells please I'm not a fag... every dell I've had has had problems with the motherboard.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:51:12 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by WabbitsFoot</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14888/page-2/?recent=258007#post=257907</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[THe problem is that laptops just aren't built for gaming. Laptops are generally more expensive for their power, because everything has to be made a smaller and lighter, which invariably is more expensive. So for a 'good' gaming latop, you'd need to pay quite a lot compared to a pc with the same specs.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:51:06 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Tikcus</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14888/page-2/?recent=258007#post=257904</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Phrozen</i>
		<blockquote>I know I know but I have a low budget :( link me a good laptop then please :p</blockquote>

It's hard to link to any good laptops without testing them, this one looks good &#38; cheap on paper, but might be shit

http://ireland.dell.com/ie/en/home/Dell-Laptops/inspiron-m5010/pd.aspx?refid=inspiron-m5010&#38;s=dhs&#38;cs=iedhs1&#38;ref=lthp

laptop on far right  (don't know how good the 1GB radeon 550v is I remember it being a re-badged 4650, check this)

always go down dell xps route

http://ireland.dell.com/ie/en/home/Dell-Laptops/xps-15/pd.aspx?refid=xps-15&#38;s=dhs&#38;cs=iedhs1&#38;~ck=mn

i'll let someone else find out the stats on the geforce 1gb 420m, mix time]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:48:43 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14888/page-1/?recent=258007#post=257903</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Tikcus</i>
		<blockquote>triple core @ 2.1 ghz with radeon 5650- would be better (can they customise), you'll always have to compromise when buying a laptop somewhere

core i5 with radeon 5650 would be better</blockquote>as u said, no L3 cache, so only ones that would stand close to i5 would be high clock ones - AMD Phenom II X2 N620 2.8ghz

u wont get decent fps on 4250 - http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Radeon-HD-4250.29664.0.html

1500 3dmarks vs 4000 marks with 4570/5470 (barely runs tf2 at 60fps mids on 1024x768)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:47:15 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by The Sniper</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14888/page-1/?recent=258007#post=257902</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6763018&#38;SRCCODE=GOOGLEBASE&#38;cm_mmc_o=VRqCjC7BBTkwCjCECjCE 
AMD Phenom II dual core 2.8ghz 
ATi Radeon HD 4250
Seems alright just a matter of whether it is available in Ireland]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:46:39 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by The Sniper</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14888/page-1/?recent=258007#post=257897</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I know I know but I have a low budget :( link me a good laptop then please :p]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:42:29 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Tikcus</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14888/page-1/?recent=258007#post=257896</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[triple core @ 2.1 ghz with radeon 5650- would be better (can they customise), you'll always have to compromise when buying a laptop somewhere

core i5 with radeon 5650 would be better]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:41:54 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14888/page-1/?recent=258007#post=257894</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Phrozen</i>
		<blockquote>So what would you recommend then

edit: what about this? http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsfullat.asp?productcode=ECE2082210#spec 2.2 dual core and ati mobility radeon  HD 4250

2nd edit: http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsfullat.asp?productcode=ECE2058284#spec this one looks good triple core 2.1ghz so if it uses 2 cores at 2.1 ghz and te vid card is ati radeon 5470</blockquote>if u want decent fps - phenom II x2(two cores - 2.8ghz and up) or core i5 (any, all of em also have two cores) or i7 with two core setup (expensive)

the one u showed is worse than previous and since its sony, the cooling will be shite aswell, those aint gaming laptops... not to mention gpu isnt even for gaming

and yes, athlons should be avoided, same with core 2 duo's, they are outdated]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:40:36 +0100</pubDate>
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