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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Microsoft Habu - Need to buy!&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dannyw281</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14798/page-2/?recent=255343#post=255343</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[http://www.megacomponents.com/acatalog/MEGACOMPONENTS_COM_Microsoft_Black_USB_Wired_7_Buttons_Laser_HABU_Gaming_Mouse___Retail__940.html 

near enough £22 inc vat

edit: holy shit £9.99 shipping, suppose £32 isnt bad though.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 09:45:21 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by shifty</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14798/page-2/?recent=255343#post=255342</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Still using the habu then eh! My one gave up beginning of this week too, we had them a while.. I had the last "new" one off Amazon.co.uk :(.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 09:03:07 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by skeej</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14798/page-2/?recent=255343#post=255151</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spike Himself</i>
		<blockquote>........
,,,,,,,,,

Some spare ones I had. For you Coinz! Feel free to use them ;)</blockquote>

lol'd


Also, just get it from the States through ebay? Find a seller that's willing to lower the declared shipping value, and you will avoid customs. Total cost 45 GBP max maybe?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 18:07:00 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Arie</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14798/page-2/?recent=255343#post=255008</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Koeitje</i>
		<blockquote>Isn't a Habu a 2000dpi laser mouse and not based of the DA (more likely copperhead sensor??), unless you mean the shape ofc? I'd get the one Coinz recommends.</blockquote>

Yes.

More like the DA is based on the Habu :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:45:16 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Koeitje</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14798/page-2/?recent=255343#post=254970</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Isn't a Habu a 2000dpi laser mouse and not based of the DA (more likely copperhead sensor??), unless you mean the shape ofc? I'd get the one Coinz recommends.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:50:24 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14798/page-2/?recent=255343#post=254963</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[........
,,,,,,,,,

Some spare ones I had. For you Coinz! Feel free to use them ;)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:39:05 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Coinz</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14798/page-2/?recent=255343#post=254960</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Martn</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

How about, the highest point on the mouse is 70mm and the low point is 62mm?
Or am i talking rubbish now?</blockquote>

the mouse dimensions are not adjustable so this is the only plausible explanation i see

as for the build quality its slight better then razer deathadder and there is no software its just plug in and play by default with 1000 dpi and 1000 hz but you can switch between 500 1000 or 2000 dpi and 500 or 1000 hz and yes it overrides the windows driver to eliminate accel 

if i were you i would only be concerned about its sensor angle snapping aka prediction since you are a high sensitivity player i really dont know if it affects your play]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:35:39 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dukermons</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14798/page-2/?recent=255343#post=254957</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spike Himself</i>
		<blockquote>

Could be a replacable housing. Seen it on several other mice as well - they come with a small and a big housing, to fit the needs of the small and large handed!
</blockquote>

Or it could just be that it's a few millimeters wider at the front than at the back!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:32:11 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14798/page-1/?recent=255343#post=254948</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from byte</i>
		<blockquote>We'are all dumb that's the width not the height my mistake but then again how can the width be adjustable? LOL :X</blockquote>

Could be a replacable housing. Seen it on several other mice as well - they come with a small and a big housing, to fit the needs of the small and large handed!

<i>Quoted from byte</i>
		<blockquote>This mouse has no software with it, its dpi is set from the mouse itself and its polling rate is 1000hz by default. Will this override the windows sensitivity?</blockquote>

No mouse dpi will override windows' sensitivity - they are two entirely separate things. But with TF2's new 'raw input' option, this doesn't really apply.
(mouse reads input from movement, sends it to pc, software (windows, tf, w/e) reads and makes your cursor move. windows sensitivity only makes it so your mouse moves 2 pixels instead of 1 when you set a higher sens, and the other way around)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:25:47 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Gobby</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14798/page-1/?recent=255343#post=254934</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Habu is loveable even with its missreads :&#62;]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:11:29 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by byte</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[We'are all dumb that's the width not the height my mistake but then again how can the width be adjustable? LOL :X

Also Coinz these mice are pretty expensive which is np, however as you are a guru with the whole windows sensitivity and ballz.

This mouse has no software with it, its dpi is set from the mouse itself and its polling rate is 1000hz by default. Will this override the windows sensitivity? like the Habu does, for example with the Habu I have to load my config for it in the software for it and then it uses the sensitivity set in there, and ignores windows.

Anyone else able to confirm?

Cheers

Byte]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:48:31 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Martndemus</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from byte</i>
		<blockquote>

One thing I don't get is the dimensions on their website says the EC1 mouse is...

EC1: 128 x 43 x 62~70 mm 

How can you have a height varying from 62 to 70mm? ?!? lol anyone able to explain this?

</blockquote>

How about, the highest point on the mouse is 70mm and the low point is 62mm?
Or am i talking rubbish now?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:36:15 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dr. Chris</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from byte</i>
		<blockquote>Aye Coinz such a genius, the Zowie EC1 is almost an identical copy of the Habu shape and specs oddly enough!!

They any good as a brand and so on Coinz or?

One thing I don't get is the dimensions on their website says the EC1 mouse is...

EC1: 128 x 43 x 62~70 mm 

How can you have a height varying from 62 to 70mm? ?!? lol anyone able to explain this?

But other than that looks like a winner!

Cheers

Byte</blockquote>

possibly adjustable (?)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:35:14 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by byte</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Aye Coinz such a genius, the Zowie EC1 is almost an identical copy of the Habu shape and specs oddly enough!!

They any good as a brand and so on Coinz or?

One thing I don't get is the dimensions on their website says the EC1 mouse is...

EC1: 128 x 43 x 62~70 mm 

How can you have a height varying from 62 to 70mm? ?!? lol anyone able to explain this?

But other than that looks like a winner!

Cheers

Byte]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:34:32 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Coinz</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-14798/page-1/?recent=255343#post=254896</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[http://www.zowiegear.dk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/z/o/zowie-ec1-black-6.jpg

you should consider zowie ec1/ec2 they seem to have similar shape to habu]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:10:41 +0100</pubDate>
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