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    	    <title>Reply by Ka0s</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-10216/page-2/?recent=179305#post=179305</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Koeitje</i>
		<blockquote>Unless you can get fiber forget about playing games.</blockquote>

you also need a 150$ network card or better off staying without internet at all]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 17:11:09 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by b10h4z4rd</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-10216/page-2/?recent=179305#post=179266</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Koeitje</i>
		<blockquote>Unless you can get fiber forget about playing games.</blockquote>

That's a bit extreme ;) But some socialising would be good for most of people browsing through this board :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 15:58:38 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Koeitje</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-10216/page-2/?recent=179305#post=179261</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Unless you can get fiber forget about playing games.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 15:37:13 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by DouGie</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-10216/page-1/?recent=179305#post=179257</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from ilike2spin</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

It's going to be really shit since I've had amazing internet for this whole year in halls.</blockquote>

yeah I had 5 ping constant when I was in halls, this year has been frustrating to say the least]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 15:19:22 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by ilike2spin</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-10216/page-1/?recent=179305#post=179253</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from GibbZ</i>
		<blockquote>Just quit now before you continue playing through a year of agony.</blockquote>

It's going to be really shit since I've had amazing internet for this whole year in halls.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 14:57:21 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by GibbZ</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-10216/page-1/?recent=179305#post=179243</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Just quit now before you continue playing through a year of agony.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 14:13:39 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-10216/page-1/?recent=179305#post=179238</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Ask people who live near the student house of possible. The level of service from ISP's will vary wildly depending on where you live.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 13:54:49 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by DouGie</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-10216/page-1/?recent=179305#post=179237</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I might go with bethere in september, have heard lots of good things, so if the router is shit, can someone recommend a decent one, pref not too pricey :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 13:51:44 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Infusion</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-10216/page-1/?recent=179305#post=179236</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[i have never used the router supplied so :/]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 13:48:50 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by D2M</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-10216/page-1/?recent=179305#post=179234</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[bethere's broadband is great but the routers they use (Speedtouch) are utter shit, especially if there are multiple people sharing the connection. So you may need to consider the additional investment in hardware.

Can't fault them for their download speeds of linux ISOs or online gaming stability though :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 13:43:29 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Infusion</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-10216/page-1/?recent=179305#post=179224</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[good experience with www.bethere.co.uk]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 13:12:42 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Tikcus</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-10216/page-1/?recent=179305#post=179221</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[if Virgin media cable is an option and funding allows go for the 50mb package, as currently there is no fair usage limits on that package

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/internet/traffic.html

If cable is not an option and you need to pick an ADSL ISP you don't need an expensive router, but the routers chipset is important.
Avoid everything with a speedtouch brand (including BT hubs), unless you want to manually make changes to the router.

cisco/linksys (modern units), netgear, belkin, &#38; us robotics routers I have had very few problems with]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 12:57:57 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by DouGie</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-10216/page-1/?recent=179305#post=179220</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I live in a 5 person student house with Virgin 20mb

you can forget about playing any game when someone is on skype or bbc iplayer! It times out probably once a week, but not that often for me.

Only good thing is its soo cheap, because dividing by 5 etc, but yeah, when nobody is on skype or anything, its great.......]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 12:57:18 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by ilike2spin</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-10216/page-1/?recent=179305#post=179211</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the info mate.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 12:39:22 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by b10h4z4rd</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/off-topic/topic-10216/page-1/?recent=179305#post=179210</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Hey dude

Me and ExcessiveEvil use Virgin Media where we live. It's a 20Mb download but only about 0.7 upload (low upload = forget playing online games is someone is using skype or other video calling tools at the same time, 2nd case is when one of us is uploading maps/ demos/ other bullshit to the server - just whenever you send something rather than recieve it - downloading should not cause you lag - but uploading stuff while playing will make your game unplayable). Second downfall is that if you download a lot during peek hours, they will cut your speed in half and then half again etc every hour until you stop excessive usage (they will however re-set it around midnight back to default speed). This is their "fair usage policy". They only way around it is download at night (between midnight and 10 am).

Any ISP you will go for will have the same/ similar bullshit policies, but be careful - some of them will put monthly download limit on you.

Don't go for Tiscali (if they still exist) - they tend to lie to their customers and like to hide things they charge additionally. BT - same as virgin media - solid ISP until something goes wrong (I took me around 2 hrs to call them - VM - once).

Personally I would not recommend ADSL (read: phone line) internet (you would need a good - read:expensive - router to keep it stable. Cable Internet (coaxial cable) is probably they best way to go for now.

Msg me on steam if you have any more questions, but imo no matter how shit virgin media is - it is still one of the best options. Oh and you might want to google for prices of it (they change every month when they make some offers).]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 12:35:20 +0200</pubDate>
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