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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Anti-Cheat system&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by byte</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-8853/page-14/?recent=149174#post=149173</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Topic locked, no need to insult admins also its quite clear in this thread it's going round in circles you've had your say and nothing has changed.

Cheers

Byte]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:02:52 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by RaCio</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-8853/page-14/?recent=149174#post=149174</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Sirrus</i>
		<blockquote>The arguement does have merit its just everyone is to willing to just accept the anti cheat admins are always right. The fact that evidence is not being shared and there is no appeal process that has been the point. All D2M is doing is quoting people who are kissing his arse and then not commenting on the fact that there is no appeal process and no way for someone to counter there decision. Then people just flock like sheep to protect that system that could eventually turn on them.</blockquote>We already explained why evidence is not shared as it would serve no point and point cheaters to their mistakes. Also, stop attacking D2M as he is not the only admin and certainly not the one who made this AC system. Please keep your future posts constructive as we have much better things to do then to wade trough topic's full of flames every day.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:02:52 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Jarate Kid</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-8853/page-14/?recent=149174#post=149168</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[The arguement does have merit its just everyone is to willing to just accept the anti cheat admins are always right. The fact that evidence is not being shared and there is no appeal process that has been the point. All D2M is doing is quoting people who are kissing his arse and then not commenting on the fact that there is no appeal process and no way for someone to counter there decision. Then people just flock like sheep to protect that system that could eventually turn on them.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:48:18 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kitty jones</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-8853/page-14/?recent=149174#post=149136</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[14 pages and still no lock.... as if this is going anywhere]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:21:12 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dr. Chris</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-8853/page-14/?recent=149174#post=149133</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Sirrus</i>
		<blockquote>no-one is actually discussing the point</blockquote>

If the point had merit I'm sure more people would discuss it, as it stands I see it as pointless and an over the top reaction.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:13:40 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Jarate Kid</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-8853/page-14/?recent=149174#post=149125</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[the thing thats funny is that some people are trying to make this thread detoriate into some kind of flame war. The fact that attacks being made personal and no-one is actually discussing the point means that I can only assume that you agree with me?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:50:30 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by jgmaster</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-8853/page-14/?recent=149174#post=149028</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from xtala</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Quoting yourself is pathetic and retarded, stop doing it.</blockquote>

Hostility/Nasty’ness’/Inappropriate Manners – A heavy warning, if continues then a temporary if not lengthy ban.

I merely drew attention to my previous unanswered point. Didn't want it to get lost in the "olol cheater" and "i dun cheat" posts. Surely you could have at least posted with some decorum if something I posted aggravated you &#62;&#60;]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:16:07 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Lzrd</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-8853/page-14/?recent=149174#post=149013</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from antyjc</i>
		<blockquote>First they came for the Russians, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Russian;
Then they came for the French, and I did not speak out—because I was not French;
Then they came for the VAC banned, and I did not speak out—because I was not VAC banned;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.</blockquote>
It wouldn't help to have any of them around, they wouldn't be able to speak properly anyway. Also they'd be too busy hackfragging to care.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:48:16 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Dr. Chris</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-8853/page-14/?recent=149174#post=148999</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Sirrus</i>
		<blockquote>silence only breeds suspicion</blockquote>

I might point out that this 'breeding' seems to be limited pretty much only to yourself.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:29:16 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Gubbins</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-8853/page-14/?recent=149174#post=148996</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from d2m</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

You're welcome to play spot the difference if you like :)</blockquote>

But D2, I can't find any =(]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:17:13 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by xtala</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-8853/page-14/?recent=149174#post=148986</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from jgmaster</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

This concerns me the most as a general player in the leagues.</blockquote>

Quoting yourself is pathetic and retarded, stop doing it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:09:55 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by skanzZ</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-8853/page-13/?recent=149174#post=148971</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from quad</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Its like talking to a door over and over again..</blockquote>

I know what you mean. There is this guy on this forum and he keeps getting told the same thing and making the same argument. I'd get annoyed if it wasnt for the fact the thread is a hilarious procrastination tool.

Also, at times you can tell somebody is hacking in 3 minutes easily. Blatant hacks can be detected in 10 seconds. In cs, steam used to VAC ban based off 30 second demos.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:33:05 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by quadua</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-8853/page-13/?recent=149174#post=148895</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from alfa</i>
		<blockquote>Instead of making pointless threads you could type !admin in #etf2l :D</blockquote>

Its like talking to a door over and over again..]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:21:41 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kluniQ</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-8853/page-13/?recent=149174#post=148868</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from antyjc</i>
		<blockquote>First they came for the Russians, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Russian;
Then they came for the French, and I did not speak out—because I was not French;
Then they came for the VAC banned, and I did not speak out—because I was not VAC banned;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.

:(</blockquote>

legend :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:21:55 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Jarate Kid</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-8853/page-13/?recent=149174#post=148864</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I don't have a problem with the admins individually I understand they do a gread job. What I don't like is in this particular instance how we are kept completely in the dark, if it has been looked at again tell us we've looked at it again. But as is we dont know that, its an issue that I'm not prepared to go blindly with. The answer is to be more open about the way you do business cos silence only breeds suspicion.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:14:04 +0100</pubDate>
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