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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Fastlane in primary map pool? :&#60; oh shi&#8221;</title>
	<link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5433/</link>
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    	    <title>Reply by dAyKiLLeR</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5433/page-3/?recent=93697#post=93697</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Fastlane wont be removed.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:26:43 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5433/page-3/?recent=93697#post=93695</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Way to ruin the fun, Skyride :D

How about we add cp_lawlstickies?  

Good name, Good mapper(s), Good times.</blockquote>

Hehe, dear god I wish we could get cp_obscure in. Its a great map, just a shame it won't be finished in time. :(]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:16:11 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5433/page-3/?recent=93697#post=93694</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Lets be serious here, All of these maps are great and whether they are good or not is entirely subjective.</blockquote>

Yes there is no such thing as good map design; cp_orange_x is just as viable a map for competitive play as cp_badlands. Oh wait no, there is and objectively fastlane sucks giant donkey balls.</blockquote>

Sorry I worded that terribly. What i mean when i said "all" was all of the maps we are discussing at the moment, not Pub Hero (TM) maps. Secondly, what I meant was that they are all good maps in terms of competitive play, just people are masking their dislike for a map under pre-text of it actually being a bad map.

Learn to tell the difference between objective and subjective things. Almost everything people complain about these maps is subjective and pure opinion, its not a real problem.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:15:18 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by fallen seraph</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5433/page-3/?recent=93697#post=93678</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[well is well good.

fastlane is slow'n'shitlane]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 02:08:07 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by cubeth</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5433/page-3/?recent=93697#post=93677</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[get rif of well, leave fastlane, it's ok]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 02:05:08 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Renegade</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5433/page-3/?recent=93697#post=93674</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I said it a while ago. :(

http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/story/44339/?spage=3]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:56:42 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Vali</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5433/page-3/?recent=93697#post=93673</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Lets be serious here, All of these maps are great and whether they are good or not is entirely subjective.</blockquote>

Yes there is no such thing as good map design; cp_orange_x is just as viable a map for competitive play as cp_badlands. Oh wait no, there is and objectively fastlane sucks giant donkey balls.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:53:30 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Limon</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5433/page-3/?recent=93697#post=93672</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Remove freight, generally boring and cp4+5 is a stalemate. How about we get rid of it?</blockquote>

dude, schysch, freight is a good map, freight_final sucks, but normal freight is not a stalemate map.</blockquote>

well ofc it doesn't seem like a normal stalemate map if you suck donkeyballs and fail the defense at last every time, which is a damn impressive accomplishment.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:51:05 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by N3.Largos</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5433/page-3/?recent=93697#post=93669</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Way to ruin the fun, Skyride :D

How about we add cp_lawlstickies?  

Good name, Good mapper(s), Good times.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:38:08 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5433/page-2/?recent=93697#post=93662</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Why don't we just get rid of every map and play 6v6 deathmatch? They all stalemate.

Lets be serious here, All of these maps are great and whether they are good or not is entirely subjective. So the only thing we should be doing is taking votes on how many people want them as pretty much any stalemate arguement is stupid.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:15:48 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Blackk</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5433/page-2/?recent=93697#post=93659</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[fastlane is good. well is bad :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:14:57 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ijantis</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5433/page-2/?recent=93697#post=93655</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[get rid of badlands and granary while you're at it]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:12:20 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[Remove cp_well, generally boring and cp4+5 is a stalemate. How about we get rid of it?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:02:59 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by m00n</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5433/page-2/?recent=93697#post=93647</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Remove freight, generally boring and cp4+5 is a stalemate. How about we get rid of it?</blockquote>

dude, schysch, freight is a good map, freight_final sucks, but normal freight is not a stalemate map.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:55:46 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by RaCio</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5433/page-2/?recent=93697#post=93643</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Fastlane out, yukon in]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:51:24 +0200</pubDate>
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