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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Weapon Poll Confusion&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Puppets</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5171/page-2/?recent=88241#post=88241</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I think that I personally missvoted on one or more of them because my brain thinks of limit 0 as if there would be no limit... Too much coding perhaps where 0 usually means "no".
This even thought I knew what 0 meant - but sometimes the brain doesn't want to think before clicking.</blockquote>same here, just woke up and vote, changed the sides and missread something like 0 limmit :( , did just realise it after the 3rd vote]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:33:18 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Skoberget</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5171/page-2/?recent=88241#post=88235</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I think that I personally missvoted on one or more of them because my brain thinks of limit 0 as if there would be no limit... Too much coding perhaps where 0 usually means "no".
This even thought I knew what 0 meant - but sometimes the brain doesn't want to think before clicking.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:14:27 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by cubeth</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5171/page-2/?recent=88241#post=88148</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[braffle won the poll]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:52:44 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Herr Braffle</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5171/page-2/?recent=88241#post=88057</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>What? People were seriously confused by this poll? Damn berserker you know some dumb shits :/.</blockquote>

how can it not be confusing when both sides can claim to win the poll?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:52:59 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kaidus</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5171/page-2/?recent=88241#post=87978</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[What? People were seriously confused by this poll? Damn berserker you know some dumb shits :/.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:24:56 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Admirable</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5171/page-2/?recent=88241#post=87939</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
I believe it was a bit more personal than that
</blockquote>

Here is the <a href="http://etf2l.org/2009/03/07/general-sandman-limit-1-cheater-bans-this-weeks-default-dates/#comments" rel="nofollow">newspost</a>.
Search the page for "cubeth" and fear for your life.
Just a 3 month ban with appeal rejected.
Fuck a jesus! :D

/derail]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:38:44 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5171/page-2/?recent=88241#post=87913</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>All admins need is a bit of fucking common sense both in dealing with unlocks and community members.
Don&#39;t ban or limit weapons that clearly aren&#39;t game breaking and don&#39;t ban community members for three months for saying &#34;Die admins&#34; when you make a terrible decision.</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:37:47 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by iQue</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5171/page-2/?recent=88241#post=87912</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Don't ban or limit weapons that clearly aren't game breaking and don't ban community members for three months for saying "Die admins" when you make a terrible decision.</blockquote>

I believe it was a bit more personal than that

Just allow everything. TWL did it, and that was not a 5 minute decision. Right, some people can be a bit childish and rage at any unlock that kill them, but none of these are as gamebreaking as the sandman, which is rigthfully banned.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:36:20 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Admirable</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5171/page-2/?recent=88241#post=87908</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>read gryzors post, it explains why every new weapon now needs a poll to avoid death threats at admins.</blockquote>

All admins need is a bit of fucking common sense both in dealing with unlocks and community members.
Don't ban or limit weapons that clearly aren't game breaking and don't ban community members for three months for saying "Die admins" when you make a terrible decision.

Fuckwits!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:29:03 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by howdeh</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5171/page-2/?recent=88241#post=87889</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>read gryzors post, it explains why every new weapon now needs a poll to avoid death threats at admins.</blockquote>

Yeah I understand, my post was more towards those who decided they would vote Limit 0 to any of those weapons.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:48:11 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by berserking god</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5171/page-1/?recent=88241#post=87877</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>gryzor Ill have to apologize for my socially challanged clanmate,  and thank you for the clarification.</blockquote>
Indeed, my most profound apology to any parties that may have felt insulted.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:26:19 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by archy_7 AT</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5171/page-1/?recent=88241#post=87868</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[good point to call a vote about the new weapons to avoid rage at the admins. but i think it would be a better idea to vote like we did when the demo limit was made.

every clan posts one time about the weapons.. yes, i see that a vote about 6 weapons is much more complicated than just a demo limit.. but as mentioned before the vote options were often mistaken. Also the poll is anonymous and therefore those fun voters feel free to vote bullshit... just a suggestion.

also i could post so much about the new weapons and how balanced almost all of them are, but i will keep that out of this topic =)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:14:43 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by iQue</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5171/page-1/?recent=88241#post=87825</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[lol @ people raging at huntsman

Just allow everything, maybe fan and jarate limit 1]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:13:12 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Herr Braffle</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5171/page-1/?recent=88241#post=87821</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Why shouldn't any of these weapons be used in ETF2L? Polls weren't required for classes in the past, and they're just as useless as these ones. Talk about making TF2 more diverse, you won't even allow someone to use an alternative to a fucking SMG...</blockquote>

read gryzors post, it explains why every new weapon now needs a poll to avoid death threats at admins.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:07:45 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by howdeh</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5171/page-1/?recent=88241#post=87819</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Why shouldn't any of these weapons be used in ETF2L? Polls weren't required for classes in the past, and they're just as useless as these ones. Talk about making TF2 more diverse, you won't even allow someone to use an alternative to a fucking SMG...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:06:31 +0200</pubDate>
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