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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Request: sv_pure 1 + whitelist in ETF2L&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Xzar</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5170/page-5/?recent=89105#post=89105</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[stop being poor and get proper computers ^___^]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:28:49 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kitty jones</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5170/page-5/?recent=89105#post=89104</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[25fps... stone age pc. guys stop trolling valve with such a shit and you might consider to get at least 4 years old hardware and you are fine.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:27:18 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by sajh</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5170/page-5/?recent=89105#post=88842</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[sv_pure 2]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:40:35 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by eoN</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5170/page-5/?recent=89105#post=88836</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[tbh valve will never add a feature like that.

EDIT: At best they may add a cvar to turn the quality down on the default trails but no replacement.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:22:17 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by waebi</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5170/page-5/?recent=89105#post=88835</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Btw my friend did edit some particles , actually he removed all the smoke and explosions. Guess how much fps he gained - NOT more than 10.</blockquote>

which is something i'm glad to have. they indeed do bother me, the mid fight often was annoying as hell for me, healing peeps with like 20-25 fps is something you should try out once or so. It IS better with noid's particles. If you say it's only in my mind, then.. well ye. at least that.

Just tell Valve to implement a possibility like the custom crosshairs already, but with particles. Still "legit", but more fps-friendly and stuff. Also, i love the with hunt everyone is participating in, if it wasnt for some geeks who made it public you still wouldnt know about it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:16:15 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by n00ne</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5170/page-5/?recent=89105#post=88830</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[sv_pure 2 , and stop whining. How can a rocket trail fill your whole screen. Btw my friend did edit some particles , actually he removed all the smoke and explosions. Guess how much fps he gained - NOT more than 10.
So , the explosions can't really bother anyone that much and they don't change your fps much. Then why do you want to edit them in the first place? bshit]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:02:04 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by gryzor</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5170/page-5/?recent=89105#post=88814</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>My particles still work on sv_pure 2 servers... So doesnt matter either way

PS if it makes a difference its rocket trails and explosions (noids ones)</blockquote>

That's because dx80-particles are not fixed (yet). That is about to change in the near future.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:13:05 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by mulk</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5170/page-5/?recent=89105#post=88788</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>-1  The league should not allow players to modify particle effects to their advantage, no matter how slight it is.</blockquote>
agree]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:56:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by str8outtaCompton</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5170/page-5/?recent=89105#post=88727</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>everybody should be equal.</blockquote>

http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 02:04:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by eoN</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5170/page-5/?recent=89105#post=88707</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[My particles still work on sv_pure 2 servers... So doesnt matter either way

PS if it makes a difference its rocket trails and explosions (noids ones)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:58:56 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by AnAkIn_</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5170/page-5/?recent=89105#post=88638</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>No, it also works with sv_pure 1 if your whitelist allows them, which could lead people to take the whitelist ETF2L gives them, change it to their likings and put it on their servers without anyone ever noticing. Tadaa, you got yourself a free wallhack that wont even get you VAC-banned.</blockquote>

IIRC, you can see the whitelist of the server you're connected to. It wouldn't be difficult to make a page on the website you can paste it into to check if it's correct.</blockquote>

Honestly, could you be bothered to do that before every match you play on another team's server? Would only create more unnecessary delays. Would be a solution but it's just not worth the effort imo.</blockquote>

It would take &#60;30 seconds per match and could be done while waiting for everyone to join anyway.</blockquote>

And a lot of people won't do it because they CBA. Already some people don't even check if sv_pure is 2.

Sv_pure 2 is fine. It doesn't need to be changed. Leagues aren't made for models/etc customization, everybody should be equal.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:22:53 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mike</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5170/page-5/?recent=89105#post=88630</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>No, it also works with sv_pure 1 if your whitelist allows them, which could lead people to take the whitelist ETF2L gives them, change it to their likings and put it on their servers without anyone ever noticing. Tadaa, you got yourself a free wallhack that wont even get you VAC-banned.</blockquote>

IIRC, you can see the whitelist of the server you're connected to. It wouldn't be difficult to make a page on the website you can paste it into to check if it's correct.</blockquote>

Honestly, could you be bothered to do that before every match you play on another team's server? Would only create more unnecessary delays. Would be a solution but it's just not worth the effort imo.</blockquote>

It would take &#60;30 seconds per match and could be done while waiting for everyone to join anyway.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:00:12 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Relentless</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5170/page-4/?recent=89105#post=88576</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>No, it also works with sv_pure 1 if your whitelist allows them, which could lead people to take the whitelist ETF2L gives them, change it to their likings and put it on their servers without anyone ever noticing. Tadaa, you got yourself a free wallhack that wont even get you VAC-banned.</blockquote>

IIRC, you can see the whitelist of the server you're connected to. It wouldn't be difficult to make a page on the website you can paste it into to check if it's correct.</blockquote>

Honestly, could you be bothered to do that before every match you play on another team's server? Would only create more unnecessary delays. Would be a solution but it's just not worth the effort imo.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:41:19 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Mike</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5170/page-4/?recent=89105#post=88572</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>No, it also works with sv_pure 1 if your whitelist allows them, which could lead people to take the whitelist ETF2L gives them, change it to their likings and put it on their servers without anyone ever noticing. Tadaa, you got yourself a free wallhack that wont even get you VAC-banned.</blockquote>

IIRC, you can see the whitelist of the server you're connected to. It wouldn't be difficult to make a page on the website you can paste it into to check if it's correct.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:33:17 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Moose</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5170/page-4/?recent=89105#post=88541</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>And those materials/particles that Relentless posted work only with sv_pure 0.</blockquote>

No, it also works with sv_pure 1 if your whitelist allows them, which could lead people to take the whitelist ETF2L gives them, change it to their likings and put it on their servers without anyone ever noticing. Tadaa, you got yourself a free wallhack that wont even get you VAC-banned.</blockquote>

This. Sv_pure 2 is the way to go.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:05:01 +0200</pubDate>
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