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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Well Jump - Allowed? Oo&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ka0s</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5069/page-2/?recent=86362#post=86362</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[its still "one" side but both teams can perform it: the train is just slightly less high]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:18:25 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by eoN</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5069/page-2/?recent=86362#post=86127</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>the train on the left (from the red side) and on the right (from the blu side) can be jumped over by simply perfectly crouch jumping onto it after jumping on the lights near the railway: you dont need any lamp :p</blockquote>

Used to be you could only do that on one side :S musta been fixed...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:10:23 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Ka0s</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5069/page-2/?recent=86362#post=86116</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[the train on the left (from the red side) and on the right (from the blu side) can be jumped over by simply perfectly crouch jumping onto it after jumping on the lights near the railway: you dont need any lamp :p]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:54:59 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by eoN</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5069/page-2/?recent=86362#post=86085</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>This specific way over is only one one side.</blockquote>

FAN allows scouts to go over either side.
hence ban? :O lol</blockquote>

You can jump on both sides without using the FaN.</blockquote>

Yeah, to elaberate you can jump ontop of the lamp and then over (the high lamp) or you can jump on the little lamp by the train on one side for one team (i think it was blue?)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 02:39:35 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by AnAkIn_</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5069/page-2/?recent=86362#post=86078</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>This specific way over is only one one side.</blockquote>

FAN allows scouts to go over either side.
hence ban? :O lol</blockquote>

You can jump on both sides without using the FaN.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:47:49 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Hypertoxin</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5069/page-2/?recent=86362#post=86068</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>This specific way over is only one one side.</blockquote>

FAN allows scouts to go over either side.
hence ban? :O lol]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:14:13 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by xtala</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5069/page-1/?recent=86362#post=85920</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Something that I've always wondered about, relevant to the original question, is what happens if you go up on the trains to spam and get involuntarily bounced onto the other team's side before 5 seconds (for instance if their demo detonated a sticky behind you)? Would you just be expected to immediately jump back? Suicide? Also what kinda sanction would we be talking about for finding yourself unwittingly on that side? Default the round? Default the map? Default the whole match?</blockquote>

You would most likely get killed in the process, and it's not like you can help it of you get shot off the train.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:44:11 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by AnAkIn_</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5069/page-1/?recent=86362#post=85912</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I think the rule should be changed. It should be allowed to jump over the trains all the time, no need of that 5 second rule.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:20:35 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spaceboy McGhee</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5069/page-1/?recent=86362#post=85908</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Something that I've always wondered about, relevant to the original question, is what happens if you go up on the trains to spam and get involuntarily bounced onto the other team's side before 5 seconds (for instance if their demo detonated a sticky behind you)? Would you just be expected to immediately jump back? Suicide? Also what kinda sanction would we be talking about for finding yourself unwittingly on that side? Default the round? Default the map? Default the whole match?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:01:30 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by AnAkIn_</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5069/page-1/?recent=86362#post=85827</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[What we have been asking is to remove the stun and replace it with something else. I don't think it'll be allowed before the stun is removed.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:51:16 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by cube</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5069/page-1/?recent=86362#post=85791</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>About &#62; Rules &#62; 1.5.5

http://etf2l.org/about/rules/#6</blockquote>

Thanks m8.

A bit off-topic though.

The sandman, since it's nerfed now, should it be allowed? Discuss.</blockquote>

I'd like to see smth new, but sandman isn't still nerfed enough to be played competitive</blockquote>

Tbh, it's been nerfed so much that no one would even use it in comp play.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 01:19:31 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by end0</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5069/page-1/?recent=86362#post=85738</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>About &#62; Rules &#62; 1.5.5

http://etf2l.org/about/rules/#6</blockquote>

Thanks m8.

A bit off-topic though.

The sandman, since it's nerfed now, should it be allowed? Discuss.</blockquote>

I'd like to see smth new, but sandman isn't still nerfed enough to be played competitive]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:35:21 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by andrich</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5069/page-1/?recent=86362#post=85727</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>About &#62; Rules &#62; 1.5.5

http://etf2l.org/about/rules/#6</blockquote>

Thanks m8.

A bit off-topic though.

The sandman, since it's nerfed now, should it be allowed? Discuss.</blockquote>

Not nerfed enough to make it fair. As stated before, stun doesn't belong in FPS, so for as long as it stuns, I very much doubt it is going to be allowed. Atleast, I hope.</blockquote>

True.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:15:54 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by howdeh</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5069/page-1/?recent=86362#post=85725</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>About &#62; Rules &#62; 1.5.5

http://etf2l.org/about/rules/#6</blockquote>

Thanks m8.

A bit off-topic though.

The sandman, since it's nerfed now, should it be allowed? Discuss.</blockquote>

Not nerfed enough to make it fair. As stated before, stun doesn't belong in FPS, so for as long as it stuns, I very much doubt it is going to be allowed. Atleast, I hope.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:15:14 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by andrich</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-5069/page-1/?recent=86362#post=85722</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>About &#62; Rules &#62; 1.5.5

http://etf2l.org/about/rules/#6</blockquote>

Thanks m8.

A bit off-topic though.

The sandman, since it's nerfed now, should it be allowed? Discuss.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:13:15 +0200</pubDate>
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