ETF2L – Latest activity in “2nd ETF2L server” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4638/ Reply by pRize https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4638/page-3/?recent=79242#post=79242 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=4638&post=79242 Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:50:30 +0200 Reply by Hypertoxin https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4638/page-3/?recent=79242#post=78564 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=4638&post=78564 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:14:00 +0200 Reply by Meyer https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4638/page-3/?recent=79242#post=77168 After playing on it i get why people are wanting it to just be for clanned people or whatever, why not make it you have to have been in a etf2l team to play on it? :X an other problem, people would just create teams to be able to join the server]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=4638&post=77168 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:50:49 +0200 Reply by eoN https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4638/page-3/?recent=79242#post=77164 Basic fail of understanding: People do not improve more on etf2l pub than any other pub, we do however suffer quite a lot from people having no clue playing there. After playing on it i get why people are wanting it to just be for clanned people or whatever, why not make it you have to have been in a etf2l team to play on it? :X]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=4638&post=77164 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:38:53 +0200 Reply by gryzor https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4638/page-3/?recent=79242#post=77160 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=4638&post=77160 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:33:32 +0200 Reply by Dannyw281 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4638/page-3/?recent=79242#post=77137 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=4638&post=77137 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:45:48 +0200 Reply by adam-skyride https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4638/page-3/?recent=79242#post=77042 But still, I've not been here for 3 months but I do believe I have reasonable gamesense and skills. So why would you have us players that genereally have put an effort into coming into competitive play and have trained hard to become good enough to be considered a competitive player kicked just because they haven't been here long enough, just doesn't make sense to me. I hope im not sounding like a zealot because im really not going for it. I just don't want idiots playing. I understand what eon is saying about playing with the better players improving your skill, but I really really don't think thats whats happening here. I just don't want stupid people playing there. I think the current filter is stopping a huge amount of that already but it still is there.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=4638&post=77042 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:50:48 +0200 Reply by cheetah https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4638/page-3/?recent=79242#post=77038 I don't see the problem with people signing up to play on the server, as long as the server is well admin'd +1 The ETF2L gets new sign ups and then you kick their asses because they are new? wtf Who cares about div6, 5 or 4? Why should they play etf2l or can they even play? Seriously, if you don't can stand the heat of new etf2l-players, maybe you leave the public server, I heard a lot of players waiting to join. If a player insults someone its ofc a complete different case.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=4638&post=77038 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:35:59 +0200 Reply by eoN https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4638/page-2/?recent=79242#post=77032
I don't really get why you would exclude people from the server just because they haven't been signed for etf2l for e.g. 3 months, it's not because people are new they are assholes.
Its nothing to do with that. Its to do with people signing up on etf2l just to play on that server. If you haven't noticed, 90% of pub players have absolutely no game sense, or reasonable understanding of the dynamics of wininng a game. They just have the mentality of "LETS GO RUN AND GETS LOADS OF KILLZ". I mean, its easy to say that if a div1 players engi or Pyro then the same applys but it just dosen't. A div1 player playing engi still has good game sense. Im sure a div1 solly playing pyro could do alot more damage on a pub than a normal pub player playing solly while ubered. The idea is really just game sense. Even if its not entirely concious, Im sure that everything anyone here does in a pub is done with the intention of winning the round. Getting lots of kills is simply a by-product of having lots of idiots W+M1'ing at you. Where as - on a typical pub server you can have vast numbers of people sit around as engineer waiting for that 1 scout kill or some sniper sit with their dot at the edge of a corner for minutes just to get that one headshot. The bottom line is that typical pub players are idiots. They don't know how to win the game or for that matter, really care about winning the game. Neither do they have skill (in general) to go and get kills as solly, scout, etc,,, so they revert to just camping, thus we have the wonderful game of Camp Fortress 2 that you will find on 95% of servers. I mean we could go into why but thats really another arguement for another thread.
But still, I've not been here for 3 months but I do believe I have reasonable gamesense and skills. So why would you have us players that genereally have put an effort into coming into competitive play and have trained hard to become good enough to be considered a competitive player kicked just because they haven't been here long enough, just doesn't make sense to me. I'm just quoting this because its freaking massive... But yeah on a serious note, not allowing people to play because they are newly registered is a little daft in a game where we are trying to get more players into the competitive community.. its kinda sad that people are even suggesting to do this because imagine if you had a chance to play pubs with the better players when you started playing TF2? It would of improved my game alot :X and if people can behave and be nice on the publics people wont be as scared to join the competitive community but then again maybe im missing the point of this server and its just there for comp players and its not ment to encourage more pubbers to join comp...]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=4638&post=77032 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:23:01 +0200 Reply by NerdZone https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4638/page-2/?recent=79242#post=77030
I don't really get why you would exclude people from the server just because they haven't been signed for etf2l for e.g. 3 months, it's not because people are new they are assholes.
Its nothing to do with that. Its to do with people signing up on etf2l just to play on that server. If you haven't noticed, 90% of pub players have absolutely no game sense, or reasonable understanding of the dynamics of wininng a game. They just have the mentality of "LETS GO RUN AND GETS LOADS OF KILLZ". I mean, its easy to say that if a div1 players engi or Pyro then the same applys but it just dosen't. A div1 player playing engi still has good game sense. Im sure a div1 solly playing pyro could do alot more damage on a pub than a normal pub player playing solly while ubered. The idea is really just game sense. Even if its not entirely concious, Im sure that everything anyone here does in a pub is done with the intention of winning the round. Getting lots of kills is simply a by-product of having lots of idiots W+M1'ing at you. Where as - on a typical pub server you can have vast numbers of people sit around as engineer waiting for that 1 scout kill or some sniper sit with their dot at the edge of a corner for minutes just to get that one headshot. The bottom line is that typical pub players are idiots. They don't know how to win the game or for that matter, really care about winning the game. Neither do they have skill (in general) to go and get kills as solly, scout, etc,,, so they revert to just camping, thus we have the wonderful game of Camp Fortress 2 that you will find on 95% of servers. I mean we could go into why but thats really another arguement for another thread. But still, I've not been here for 3 months but I do believe I have reasonable gamesense and skills. So why would you have us players that genereally have put an effort into coming into competitive play and have trained hard to become good enough to be considered a competitive player kicked just because they haven't been here long enough, just doesn't make sense to me.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=4638&post=77030 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:11:58 +0200 Reply by adam-skyride https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4638/page-2/?recent=79242#post=76783 I don't really get why you would exclude people from the server just because they haven't been signed for etf2l for e.g. 3 months, it's not because people are new they are assholes. Its nothing to do with that. Its to do with people signing up on etf2l just to play on that server. If you haven't noticed, 90% of pub players have absolutely no game sense, or reasonable understanding of the dynamics of wininng a game. They just have the mentality of "LETS GO RUN AND GETS LOADS OF KILLZ". I mean, its easy to say that if a div1 players engi or Pyro then the same applys but it just dosen't. A div1 player playing engi still has good game sense. Im sure a div1 solly playing pyro could do alot more damage on a pub than a normal pub player playing solly while ubered. The idea is really just game sense. Even if its not entirely concious, Im sure that everything anyone here does in a pub is done with the intention of winning the round. Getting lots of kills is simply a by-product of having lots of idiots W+M1'ing at you. Where as - on a typical pub server you can have vast numbers of people sit around as engineer waiting for that 1 scout kill or some sniper sit with their dot at the edge of a corner for minutes just to get that one headshot. The bottom line is that typical pub players are idiots. They don't know how to win the game or for that matter, really care about winning the game. Neither do they have skill (in general) to go and get kills as solly, scout, etc,,, so they revert to just camping, thus we have the wonderful game of Camp Fortress 2 that you will find on 95% of servers. I mean we could go into why but thats really another arguement for another thread.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=4638&post=76783 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:41:45 +0200 Reply by NerdZone https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4638/page-2/?recent=79242#post=76775 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=4638&post=76775 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:02:49 +0200 Reply by eoN https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4638/page-2/?recent=79242#post=76030
More people DOES NOT = more idiots
Stopped reading there:) Should of said more people doesnt HAVE to mean more idiots :x]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=4638&post=76030 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:52:11 +0200 Reply by KOVACS https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4638/page-2/?recent=79242#post=76028 More people DOES NOT = more idiots Stopped reading there:)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=4638&post=76028 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:49:23 +0200 Reply by _hyperfunk https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4638/page-2/?recent=79242#post=75875 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=4638&post=75875 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:05:18 +0200