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    	    <title>Reply by purplefistmixer</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4593/page-4/?recent=77071#post=77071</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
(And why bother with the "6v6" these days?)  :P</blockquote>
In case someone is looking for amazing highlander/other things. :p]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:54:06 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>
This isn't a one-off either. In iExpo we play about 2 PCW's every night just about (not counting mixes) and i'd say that happens about every 3rd match we play. Happened the night before where we played a team made mostly of Mmmm.... players but with 2 guys from YYT (although we had numlocked playing with us so it was all good, but they didn't know that until they joined)</blockquote>
I think that was my mix actually, and you had numlocked playing ON class ffs, he was outscoring your medic for a while if I recall?</blockquote>


No it wasen't that mix with you guys PFM. :) That match with you guys was fantastic and very enjoyable one. This was another match I was talking about.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:47:47 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by N3.Largos</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4593/page-3/?recent=77071#post=77037</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Why not advertize in terms of divisions, instead of skill level?  

lf 6v6 &#124; Div3 &#124; Server On  means more to me than
lf 6v6 &#124; MID- &#124; Server On 

(Or wait, is div3 low+ or mid-?)

(And why bother with the "6v6" these days?)  :P]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:35:56 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by purplefistmixer</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4593/page-3/?recent=77071#post=76946</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
This isn't a one-off either. In iExpo we play about 2 PCW's every night just about (not counting mixes) and i'd say that happens about every 3rd match we play. Happened the night before where we played a team made mostly of Mmmm.... players but with 2 guys from YYT (although we had numlocked playing with us so it was all good, but they didn't know that until they joined)</blockquote>
I think that was my mix actually, and you had numlocked playing ON class ffs, he was outscoring your medic for a while if I recall?

Accusing someone of being a skillfaker, unless it's BLATANTLY obvious that they're not that skill (ie 6 div 1/2/3 players claiming to be low :) ), is a bit tricky to manage because as has already been illustrated, nobody reallllly knows what skill they are. A mix I was in looked for low- one time and got accused of being skillfakers because we destroyed them, yet if we had looked for a low game, it's possible we would have been destroyed. 

As far as high div players name-changing for the purpose of raping low skill teams, does it really happen THAT often? Thankfully all I've ever experienced is a team having one or two (usually just one) high div players, and if you have SUCH an issue with that, you can simply go "no sorry we don't want to play x", and find another match. Big deal.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:14:10 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>most russians have .de or .nl servers</blockquote>
Hahahaha.</blockquote>


Hmm, played like 6 russian teams on .de or.nl servers, could be borrowed? 2 teams on .se and maybe 4 teams on russian servers, maybe I have been lucky?</blockquote>

You have been lucky by the sounds of it, :)

You know .nl is netherlands and .de is germany ye?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:30:26 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by tramsig</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>most russians have .de or .nl servers</blockquote>
Hahahaha.</blockquote>


Hmm, played like 6 russian teams on .de or.nl servers, could be borrowed? 2 teams on .se and maybe 4 teams on russian servers, maybe I have been lucky?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:40:48 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by adam-skyride</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4593/page-3/?recent=77071#post=76789</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[The problem really is NOTHING to do with people not being clear on what low, low+ , etc,,, is. The problem is skill faking. I think eoN will back me up on this from a mix we played earlier today. Bassically, we got a match off #tf.wars looking for low with server on playing cp_freight. So we get one. Then a couple of div 2 guys join, then someone div 4, and it was just. 0.o? Fuck off

I know that alot of them weren't play their main class but I really don't think it matters. Play your proper damn classes and then play people of your skill level. Everyones a winner!

This isn't a one-off either. In iExpo we play about 2 PCW's every night just about (not counting mixes) and i'd say that happens about every 3rd match we play. Happened the night before where we played a team made mostly of Mmmm.... players but with 2 guys from YYT (although we had numlocked playing with us so it was all good, but they didn't know that until they joined).

I really don't see why the guys div4+ seem to enjoy getting e-peen of steam-rolling clans who are alot below them.

<blockquote><blockquote>most russians have .de or .nl servers</blockquote>
Hahahaha.</blockquote>

I lol'd]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 05:14:01 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Fluffy Meowington</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>most russians have .de or .nl servers</blockquote>
Hahahaha.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:13:18 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Madness.</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4593/page-3/?recent=77071#post=76170</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[6v6 &#124; Mid &#124; On &#124; Now surely still the best?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:09:18 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kluniQ</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4593/page-3/?recent=77071#post=76164</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>If #tf.wars is shit now, what's a better way to find matches? Pre-organising?</blockquote>

Pretty much, get a group of clans that you know are good guys and will give you a good match, much better than irc randomers :&#62;]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:58:58 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Cycles</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[If #tf.wars is shit now, what's a better way to find matches? Pre-organising?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:52:29 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by bait</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Yeah #tf.wars was really more popular before.. Now it's hard to find an opponent there :S</blockquote>

i dont know when you're searching but we do random mixes with friends and theres always game to play.</blockquote>~7-10. Sometimes we look for 15-20 minutes for an opponent.. Play with the same guys a lot of times.  That's for the low at least :/ Back there were so many teams.. As soon as you got there you could have found yourself an opponent. And it was rearly to play with someone you have played in 1-2 weeks]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:43:43 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by waebi</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4593/page-3/?recent=77071#post=76151</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[that was not even 20% on the rage-o-meter... :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:18:46 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kluniQ</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>noone fucking cares, stop whining

just check the etf2l divisions before you play if you want to be big fat crybabies

cya noobs</blockquote>

Such a charming young man.</blockquote>

ye but he's actually right. "back then", when i organised some games, i always looked up the names and often annoyed my team when i said "omg not , they're low--!!1"</blockquote>

I'm not saying he's wrong, no need to rage though xD]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:01:18 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by waebi</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4593/page-3/?recent=77071#post=76140</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>noone fucking cares, stop whining

just check the etf2l divisions before you play if you want to be big fat crybabies

cya noobs</blockquote>

Such a charming young man.</blockquote>

ye but he's actually right. "back then", when i organised some games, i always looked up the names and often annoyed my team when i said "omg not , they're low--!!1"]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:52:03 +0200</pubDate>
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