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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;[inofficial poll] cp_gravelpit and bo3&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Vlijm</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[A, must be possible to get a tie]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:49:26 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by pl4t1num</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>A

I like playing shorter games.</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:34:23 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Akasazh</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4477/page-4/?recent=74480#post=73936</link>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:52:09 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Exfane</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4477/page-4/?recent=74480#post=73773</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[a, draw in a league is fine]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:28:24 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by popsu</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4477/page-4/?recent=74480#post=73770</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[A

I like playing shorter games.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:15:35 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by MasterBlaster</title>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:15:13 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by tarmo-</title>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:14:09 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kEvNx</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[b]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:12:51 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by JimmyBreeze</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[A

I don't think that whether or not a draw is a fair result is the main issue here.

Assume that the average offensive round time (at least div 3 and above) is 6 minutes. We've all seen our fair share of sub 4 minute times and some reaching as far as 11, 12 minutes as well.

That'd potentially be 4 sets of around 6 minutes over 2 rounds, totalling 24 minutes. Add 5 minutes for ready up/switch teams/setup times and you're looking at about 30 total minutes already - for an average game under the current ruleset (and it probably takes more like 10 minutes for teams to ready up etc). That, to me, is plenty time. It can go a little bit longer or a little bit less. 

If you add a third round, and it goes the average length, plus the extra ready up and setup time (and also potentially calculating who gets to decide who attacks first in the third round), you will play something like 45/50 minutes.

What happens if, in the worst case scenario, all 3 rounds go to 11 minute holds? You're looking at games that could last well over an hour.

I realise that sometimes a team sets a 10 minute mark and the other team finishes that round in 3, but my point is that games <i>could</i> reach truly excessive times.

Gravel Pit is a unique test of a team, but BO3 is not the way forward. ETF2L should be investigating methods to speed up the game and make it more player/spectator friendly (like reducing the timelimit on Turbine), not longer.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:10:42 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Crusa</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[A

No need for third round. It is played as a stopwatch mode so making it tie is your own fault by not attacking / defending better than your opponent did.

And someone said it's not competitive enough. How in earth can stopwatch be anything but competitive. That is way more competitive than your regular 5cp grind. If your defence sucked and your opponent made good time then you just have to match for that on your own offence to beat their time. I would say stopwatch is the most competitive mode of the game.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:57:07 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Player Thirty-Two</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4477/page-3/?recent=74480#post=73640</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[F2, that's a bit harsh, don't you think :p  Sure, one backstab could change the game, but getting that stab isn't so easy, and the team should know how to counter it. It's one of the only maps where Spy is actually being used, I'd hate to see it gone just because it's porentially very frustrating...

A) Leave it as it is.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:50:37 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kluniQ</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[B) 1 round each, then the team that won by the largest time margin gets to choose sides for the last round.

FTW]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:01:03 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by m1neraL</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[A]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:59:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Freak mit der Knarre</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[b]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:54:15 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Meyer</title>
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    	    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:51:32 +0200</pubDate>
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