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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Change team / mercing ?!&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Demourge</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4386/page-2/?recent=69643#post=69643</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Getting a bit bored of this discussion.

px has a lot of original FB2 members, which cook was a part of aswell, he played soldier in that. When FB2 disbanded he joined FB1, first as soldier and then changed to medic when they were going places through div2 / to div1. The original idea was to get him to play the official and if it went well maybe recruit him fulltime. Obviously that worked out a little different and he just changed back to FB without talking to any of us (or at least, without talking to me).

You claim he might give a "tactical advantage", while you seem to forget we have some ex div2 players aswell, so doubt he'll give us any groundbreaking tactics. Not to mention he didn't have the time to walk us through them since we only talked about it a few days before the match.

So it's not as if we needed a merc, we were playing with a potentially full member and it worked out a little different than we expected. As for a "div1 merc, lolz" .. please .. he played medic in FB and FB are hardly raping their division .. Not to mention he's mainly "just on the roster", which has been said before.

I think that's enough explanation for anyone curious, even if it is nothing of your bussiness. If I wanted to do something properly cheeky to win the game I would've added a proper div1 soldier to the roster.

Move along please.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:49:02 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by FireStorm</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4386/page-2/?recent=69643#post=69491</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Yea I could use many words instead of 'unable' and that was the kindest way of putting it since he was my friend and I enjoy playing against him. Don't why you brought that up.

The point here really was the normal procedure is to ask if you can use a merc, and the other team agree we did so earlier in the season and the opponent agreed did you thing we would be asses and not?

The forums are here for discussion don't slate the guy for wanted to discuss the rules just as a excuse to avoid answering the points he raises. Most of the consensus here is that what you did was wrong so its a perfectly valid point to raise.

The point that you would have done better with your correct team anyway is not only wrong but missing the point. We beat you in PCWs with your 'best' team and you beat us as well. But this is all besides the point would you have been happy if we got TopGear in to play for us? yes hes a div 1 medic too. Still think it would have been fair tho?

More end of season e-drama, I am not making a big deal out of it none of us are, but don't try to say that it was a perfectly ok to do and made no difference, if it made no differance you would have just asked us to use a merc.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:24:13 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by tapley</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4386/page-2/?recent=69643#post=69473</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Well you did obviously make a difference otherwise they would have to play with 5 :p.
Either way all you have to do is ask us if you can use cook as a merc etc, its far more curtious that way rather than ninja adding and deleting. 
But whatever, would have expected nothing less from demourage the dirty dutchie :D.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:07:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Extremer</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4386/page-2/?recent=69643#post=69471</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Cook's just a token FB member like Vice and Tedman.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:07:17 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by cook</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4386/page-1/?recent=69643#post=69458</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[There was no advantage by having me whatsoever. It wasn't a game changing performance to say the least and I wasn't commanding. 

They didn't have a player available for the first match so I helped out, that's all, nothing malicious. 

I wasn't actually playing for FB, I just sit in their roster. I left px. again because well it's the end of the season so no need to stay in there.

So basically, yes, I am in FB 'for the lulz' (BECAUSE THEY ARE AWESOME).]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:50:19 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Rake</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4386/page-1/?recent=69643#post=69446</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[http://etf2l.org/forum/recruiting/topic-4022/page-1/ So he officially is in FB "for the lulz"!?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:28:29 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kitty jones</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4386/page-1/?recent=69643#post=69442</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[sounds like bad sportmanship by swapping teams to avoid that the opponent need to agree to a merc. sure as said above he managed to bring himself into a position in which he's now unable to play for his real team but does it really hurt FB? guess not. I'd be mad If I was in exS or omg. one of them won't get into the playoffs because of that.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:24:26 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Rake</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4386/page-1/?recent=69643#post=69436</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA["Unable" is quite an unfitting word for the occasion, don't you think? ;p
And besides, I see no reason for someone completely unrelated to the case posting about it on a public forum. And we most likely would have done better if it wasn't for these recent line-up changes. Cook's tactical knowledge didn't really help when he didn't get the time to share it. :P]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:16:14 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by FireStorm</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4386/page-1/?recent=69643#post=69429</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Well after the match we noticed what they had done and just asked the question weather it was allowed.

In the granary match in which we won I would not say he out fragged the team as soldier but maybe the tactical advantage like you said but it did't help them at the end of the day. Believe it or not it was not his d1 medic/soldier or tactics that help them. It was his pro pyro skillz :DDD that made the difference on goldrush :(

Both were very enjoyable matches from start to finish just a shame demsii was unable to play the 2nd map :P.

While yes it was un-sportmanship like of them, they did't break any rules so fair play really who knows I might have done the same thing in his situation.

Gratz on winning the div demsii, err px, umm fb2 err cook. fuck it idk :D.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:04:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by UPS</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4386/page-1/?recent=69643#post=69425</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[tapley,
... Unless px <i>mysteriously</i> folds therefore becoming a "dead team".]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:57:21 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Demourge</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4386/page-1/?recent=69643#post=69421</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>nice ninja edit, demourge</blockquote>

thanks.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:51:57 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by dAyKiLLeR</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4386/page-1/?recent=69643#post=69418</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Of course we also know about this case and agree it's very bad sportsmanship from cook and Px. But currently they haven't broken any rules so we can't do a punishment.

As Rule 1.7.3 says cook won't be allowed to play for FB in the last two matches. Also we will add a new rule for Season 6 so this won't be possible anymore.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:46:31 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by tapley</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4386/page-1/?recent=69643#post=69414</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Because we're kind :p

But Technically
1.7.3 One team change per competition allowed

A player is allowed to do one team change during a competition. A player changing from a dead team doesn’t count as real change.


So "ONE" Team change has already been made FB - PX
Cook has now made another teamchange PX-FB 

This means he can no longer play any games for px or fb according to the rules :p as thats 2 team changes.
Now the'll get relegated!!! .. oh wait ;&#60;.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:44:30 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by supremebeing</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4386/page-1/?recent=69643#post=69413</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[nice ninja edit, demourge]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:39:37 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Demourge</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-4386/page-1/?recent=69643#post=69406</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[*facepalm*]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:26:10 +0200</pubDate>
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