ETF2L – Latest activity in “Promotion format” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3728/ Reply by m1neraL https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3728/page-2/?recent=65127#post=65127 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=3728&post=65127 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:46:43 +0200 Reply by bun https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3728/page-2/?recent=65127#post=65116 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=3728&post=65116 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:02:49 +0200 Reply by zar https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3728/page-2/?recent=65127#post=56061 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=3728&post=56061 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:23:27 +0200 Reply by AcidReniX https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3728/page-2/?recent=65127#post=56043 +1 In addition I think 1st and 2nd places should have advantages over 3rd and 4th place They do have an advantage. If the chance of winning a game is 50-50 4th place has a 12.5% chance of promotion. 3rd place has a 12.5% chance (+ decider map choice) of promotion. 2nd place has a 25% chance of promotion. 1st place has a 50% chance of promotion. *Could even allow 2nd place to have map choice over the 2nd vs (winner of 3rd vs 4th) if you wanted to give them a bigger advantage, and then the same for 1st vs (winner of 2nd vs....)
However, it also means that if a team doesn’t do so well to start with and gets better players at the END of the season and are in time enough to get the 4th place, they’ll get to the next division without much work done throughout the whole season. (which would, in effect, probably cause some rage in that particular division)
Pretty much yes, but I think it would improve the league because the following season you would have a promoted team that can compete in the division above, not a team that could compete in the division above... 3 months ago, but then lost their good players just before the next season.
I’m gonna put it out there might sound a bit crazy and wacky but how about we leave it how it is! *shock*
It's a suggestion dude. I don't see any problems with the current system, just looking to improve it, which I feel this would do. This format also gives an extra level to the league, rather than yay.. someone won the season, who cares. It would add a 'ZomG Super playoff week!!' where these top teams seeking coverage for their sponsors get to show them off and lower teams playing for fun can get some decent coverage of their games (I would quite happily cast the playoff games (only the final one) for each division, leading up to covering the final game of division 1). You can also get a load of articles published on sites like cadred, gossip, gotfrag. 'ETF2L Playoff week, starting Monday 5th, tune in to watch the epic battles of teams fighting for promotion, and the ETF2L crown, this week only blah blah' Might get more sponsors interested in ETF2L which means either a better service from the league, or maybe better prizes for division 1 or other divisions. Who knows.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=3728&post=56043 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:12:08 +0200 Reply by d0llar https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3728/page-2/?recent=65127#post=55940 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=3728&post=55940 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:07:58 +0200 Reply by Shintaz https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3728/page-2/?recent=65127#post=55837 It also means that a team that did really well in the early stages of the season and then lost all their players, won't get promoted into a division they are not ready for. However, it also means that if a team doesn't do so well to start with and gets better players at the END of the season and are in time enough to get the 4th place, they'll get to the next division without much work done throughout the whole season. (which would, in effect, probably cause some rage in that particular division)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=3728&post=55837 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:57:00 +0200 Reply by Oggy https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3728/page-2/?recent=65127#post=55833 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=3728&post=55833 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:43:15 +0200 Reply by Madness. https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3728/page-2/?recent=65127#post=55709 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=3728&post=55709 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:55:04 +0200 Reply by Vlijm https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3728/page-1/?recent=65127#post=55510 A league is a league at the end of the season who ever finishes top should win . +1]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=3728&post=55510 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:09:04 +0200 Reply by Ijantis https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3728/page-1/?recent=65127#post=55506 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=3728&post=55506 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:04:42 +0200 Reply by AcidReniX https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3728/page-1/?recent=65127#post=55441 Why would anyone seeded 1st want to be placed there if they have to meet up the second best team on first round. Really makes no sense. :p *Oh, you have it wrong. They wouldn't meet the 2nd place team on the first round. The first round would be a match between 4th and 3rd. The second round would be the winner of that game vs 2nd place. The 3rd round would be the winner of that game vs 1st place. Being first means you skip straight to the finals of the playoffs. A fantastic award and motivation for coming first right?* The second team in the league could be knocked out by the 3rd or 4th placed team before they even reach the final. Of course it makes sense... The 4th placed team would have to win THREE games in a row to take the title. The 3rd placed team would also have to win THREE games in a row to take the title (No real reward for coming 3rd or 4th except you could apply map choice or something) (You could consider these equal playoff spots otherwise) The 2nd placed team would have to win TWO games in a row to take the title The 1st placed team would have to win ONE game to take the title. Any form of title deciding playoff could mean that the team that came 1st in the league could lose their title based on 1 game. This system means they only have 1 chance to lose out on the title. The 2nd placed team has 2 chances to lose out, the 3rd and 4th have 3 chances. With reguards to the 3rd and 4th place issue of them being the same. 3rd place could decide the decider map if it's needed. This gives them a clear advantage of being able to pick one of their strongest maps (or their opponents weakest map) if they can get the series to a 1-1 situation. There is no doubt that it will be harder for a 4th place team to finish first in their division. If they do manage to beat the top 3 teams in a row, then surely they would be deserving winners? It also adds an 'all or nothing' situation to the league. All or nothing is exciting. I know for sure I would enjoy playing/casting the playoffs in this format.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=3728&post=55441 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:16:29 +0200 Reply by Memento Mori https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3728/page-1/?recent=65127#post=55350 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=3728&post=55350 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:04:41 +0200 Reply by Oggy https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3728/page-1/?recent=65127#post=55344 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=3728&post=55344 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:05:40 +0200 Reply by Depch https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3728/page-1/?recent=65127#post=55332 G1 - 4th plays 3rd, G2 - Winner of G1 plays 2nd (loser = 3rd place) Final - Winner of G2 plays 1st (winner = 1st place, loser = 2nd place). -1 Prefer way from ice hockey where G1 would be 1st vs 4th and G2 2nd vs 3rd. The one ARX suggested could leave the better team as 3rd compared 2nd team. 3rd could've won both teams in playoffs then. Way I prefered the standings from regular season would have a meaning. 1st would get the "easier" clan against. Why would anyone seeded 1st want to be placed there if they have to meet up the second best team on first round. Really makes no sense. :p Also I would not have direct relegations and promotions in div1 nor div2. Clans should play for their spots there. Thus having the better/more deserving clan stay up. Like for example there could be a few teams raping in div3 atm. Where as they might be better than the teams that got their spot for div2 and will get raped there. So the mindset when going for upper division should be if we fare well, we will deserve a chance to play for a spot in upper division. :] playoffs like between div1-div2; Div1#9 vs (G1; Div2a winner vs Div2b second) Div1#10 vs (G2; Div2a second vs Div2b winner) Something similar could be done between div2-div3 playoffs. That would ensure that the best teams are playing in top.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=3728&post=55332 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 03:53:24 +0200 Reply by Bones https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3728/page-1/?recent=65127#post=55325 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=3728&post=55325 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 03:12:54 +0200