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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;New weapons and ETF2L&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Koeitje</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3575/page-5/?recent=59645#post=59645</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Razorback is only useful in matches once you know the enemy team has a spy.
The only thing a spy can really do against a razorback sniper is use the ambassador for the 2HKO
Ambassador is verging on the edge of OP in the hands of a skilled player

IMO we can't allow the Razorback in matches unless we allow the Ambassador and if we ban the Ambassador we also have to ban the Razorback</blockquote>

I once heard about this thing called a revolver...</blockquote>

Or you stab the medic or another class and let the scout flank the sniper?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:49:44 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by MoRpHKoPf</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3575/page-4/?recent=59645#post=59641</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[razorback is the worst item ever in TF2 so... ? yeah why ?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:47:52 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Limon</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3575/page-4/?recent=59645#post=59625</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA["IMO we can’t allow the Razorback in matches unless we allow the Ambassador and if we ban the Ambassador we also have to ban the Razorback"

why :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:37:25 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by MoRpHKoPf</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3575/page-4/?recent=59645#post=59623</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[All Sniper/Spy unlocks should be allowed.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:33:08 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by HELMUT PITZ</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3575/page-4/?recent=59645#post=59619</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[-20]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:10:40 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kolox</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3575/page-4/?recent=59645#post=59451</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Razorback is only useful in matches once you know the enemy team has a spy.
The only thing a spy can really do against a razorback sniper is use the ambassador for the 2HKO
Ambassador is verging on the edge of OP in the hands of a skilled player

IMO we can't allow the Razorback in matches unless we allow the Ambassador and if we ban the Ambassador we also have to ban the Razorback</blockquote>

I once heard about this thing called a revolver...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:53:24 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Puppets</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3575/page-4/?recent=59645#post=59443</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[ye sounds best to leave it all forbidden as it is so there wont be rage and admins wishes to death again ;), and tbh why should the razorback be forbidden? its the most unusefull objekt in tf2, even a drunk can see that the enemy is wearing this really big shield on his back which even makes him slower, and wait, when have you seen the use of both a sniper and a spy in your last match?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:12:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kitty jones</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3575/page-4/?recent=59645#post=59348</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[yup, sounds logical.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:21:54 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by gryzor</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3575/page-4/?recent=59645#post=59347</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[OR, we can learn from past mistakes regarding changing things mid-season. In this case, clans who have done their homework only have 3 games left -- why mess with it now? Hooray for season 6!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:18:09 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kitty jones</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3575/page-4/?recent=59645#post=59346</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I'd say all should be allowed. nothing gamebreaking imo. also everyone can farm them again, so I really don't see a problem anymore! 


hats should be banned;p]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:13:06 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Randomdog</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3575/page-4/?recent=59645#post=59344</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[My personal opinion on the new weapons

Watches - Should be allowed

Huntsman - Is bad, you can use it if you want but don't expect to do very well

Jarate - Well at the moment it actually stops RJ / SJ from being as effective when under the effects, and it removes damage falloff, can affect multiple enemies, lasts about 10 seconds and only takes 20 to recharge. Its looking like a ban for it in matches considering a competitive sniper wouldn't find much use for the SMG anyway

And now the big debate

Razorback is only useful in matches once you know the enemy team has a spy.
The only thing a spy can really do against a razorback sniper is use the ambassador for the 2HKO
Ambassador is verging on the edge of OP in the hands of a skilled player

IMO we can't allow the Razorback in matches unless we allow the Ambassador and if we ban the Ambassador we also have to ban the Razorback]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:10:26 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by AnAkIn_</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3575/page-4/?recent=59645#post=55084</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[They are now allowed in ESL.

http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2/news/89167/]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 17:28:35 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Weirdz</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3575/page-4/?recent=59645#post=55045</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Need fresh air/strat/compo in 6v6 ... need a bit more fun atm]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 15:57:03 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Koeitje</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3575/page-4/?recent=59645#post=55037</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Well, if you use a C&#38;D spy then for most of the match you'll be fighting 5v6...</blockquote>

True, but I'm not saying he shouldn't attempt to take down enemies :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 15:48:57 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by spawnofebil</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3575/page-4/?recent=59645#post=55033</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Well, if you use a C&#38;D spy then for most of the match you'll be fighting 5v6...]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 15:41:40 +0200</pubDate>
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