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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;About the 1.6.3 rule?&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by gryzor</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3343/page-2/?recent=48509#post=48509</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Click "About" -&#62; "Rules", read. Anything else is just pure speculation or personal opinions. Deneusbeer, Winneh and me have both replied above. Read those if interested, locking this to avoid piling up the answers already given.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 12:50:19 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by eoN</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3343/page-2/?recent=48509#post=48497</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>what difference does it make whether it's a pov demo or stv demo?</blockquote>

STV demos don't show anything! STV demos are so innacurate showing what is actually happening :D</blockquote>

Is there anything else that is changed inbetween POV and STV demos apart from rates? (sorry im really curious about that ^^)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 12:02:10 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by umami</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3343/page-2/?recent=48509#post=48491</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Why even have this discussion? 
It is said that we should always record a demo and how hard should it be? 

And don't tell thats not the point because it is, just record the damn demo.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 11:36:27 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by nubonamission</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3343/page-2/?recent=48509#post=48490</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>what difference does it make whether it's a pov demo or stv demo?</blockquote>

STV demos don't show anything! STV demos are so innacurate showing what is actually happening :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 11:33:25 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by miikka</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3343/page-2/?recent=48509#post=48484</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[what difference does it make whether it's a pov demo or stv demo?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 11:20:30 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kitty jones</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3343/page-2/?recent=48509#post=48479</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>we do have to follow it? If someone from the other team requests a POV demo from your player and you cant submit it, then 1. that person on your team gets a bad reputation (HE COULD HAX!!11) and 2. a warning cause you "HAVE TO".</blockquote>

wouldn't upload my pov demo to some random league player. couldn't care less what he thinks about me :&#62;]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 10:01:23 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Winneh</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3343/page-2/?recent=48509#post=48475</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[No idear who told you that u dont have to record demos Garm3n, that rule is quite clear :o]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 07:50:16 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Garm3n</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3343/page-2/?recent=48509#post=48450</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>1.6.3 Every player has to record Demos
Every player is supposed to record Demos of every map and keep them for at least 2 weeks cause of possible protests. A player and his team who can’t manage to bespeak a requested demo will be punished.</blockquote>


Everyone actually HAS to follow it (no, stv wont save your ass if u havent got pov demos).

As listed on the rules page:
<blockquote>General System

    * 3 minor warnings = 1 major warning
    * 1 major warning = deduction of 1 point
    * 3 major warnings = additional deduction of 3 points
    * 5 major warnings = expulsion from the league

Minor warning:
Not being able to provide a requested Demo (1st time)
Major warning: 
Not being able to provide a requested Demo (after 1st time)</blockquote>


Demos aint just used to spot cheaters, they are used to solve ingame issues aswell (i.e. flames, jumping over trains on well or stuff like that)</blockquote>

Then you admins tell diffrent. Don't you all know the rules?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 02:01:50 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by -Swifty-</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3343/page-2/?recent=48509#post=48444</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[haha GibbZ]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 01:26:37 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by GibbZ</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3343/page-1/?recent=48509#post=48440</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[posting to show my colourful seven off too!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 01:06:45 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Winneh</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3343/page-1/?recent=48509#post=48439</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>1.6.3 Every player has to record Demos
Every player is supposed to record Demos of every map and keep them for at least 2 weeks cause of possible protests. A player and his team who can’t manage to bespeak a requested demo will be punished.</blockquote>


Everyone actually HAS to follow it (no, stv wont save your ass if u havent got pov demos).

As listed on the rules page:
<blockquote>General System

    * 3 minor warnings = 1 major warning
    * 1 major warning = deduction of 1 point
    * 3 major warnings = additional deduction of 3 points
    * 5 major warnings = expulsion from the league

Minor warning:
Not being able to provide a requested Demo (1st time)
Major warning: 
Not being able to provide a requested Demo (after 1st time)</blockquote>


Demos aint just used to spot cheaters, they are used to solve ingame issues aswell (i.e. flames, jumping over trains on well or stuff like that)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 01:02:57 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by tapley</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3343/page-1/?recent=48509#post=48438</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[How hard is it to just do /record demovsnoobgays ? in console]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 01:00:30 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by -Swifty-</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3343/page-1/?recent=48509#post=48432</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[If a demo is not provided once, constant demo checks will be asked of that player until the end of eternity to make sure he never hacks!]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 00:47:05 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Tupi</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3343/page-1/?recent=48509#post=48429</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[it should be  "record always,  keep atleast 3 days after the match, if opponent/admin want's the demo"]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 00:41:19 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Garm3n</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-3343/page-1/?recent=48509#post=48423</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>we do have to follow it? If someone from the other team requests a POV demo from your player and you cant submit it, then 1. that person on your team gets a bad reputation (HE COULD HAX!!11) and 2. a warning cause you "HAVE TO".</blockquote>

No! That's not how it works! (Just talked with an admin)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 00:15:18 +0200</pubDate>
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