ETF2L – Latest activity in “Why is open 6s playoffs mid 6s?”

ETF2L – Latest activity in “Why is open 6s playoffs mid 6s?” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-32664/ Reply by Lolacio https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-32664/page-7/?recent=551563#post=551563 Quoted from TaylorSwiftFan100

pls never make any retarded rules like "limited to medic if played X div" or "can't play X div if you played Y div".

Class restrictions will never be a thing. And what we're looking at is making a rule slightly more specific for skill level. As example. We allow an open team with 5 inexperienced players and 1 prem player. Then mid-season they start using 2 additional prem players bringing it up to 3/6. Seeing that they only swapped 2/6 player(33%).The hijacking rule wouldn't be applicable yet but this would still be unfair in most cases. Which is why we'll try getting something working like limiting the amount of higher skilled players that can join during the season. This would always be reviewable with admins and we would try to keep as much into account as possible. TL;DR Closing thread because everything is getting repeated, we're working on something and it won't limit you from playing in lower divisions while trying to make the tiers as fair as possible.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=32664&post=551563 Wed, 16 Mar 2016 01:17:01 +0100 Reply by kakaer https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-32664/page-7/?recent=551563#post=551562 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=32664&post=551562 Wed, 16 Mar 2016 01:03:12 +0100 Reply by Tamir https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-32664/page-7/?recent=551563#post=551561 oops sent twice ;c]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=32664&post=551561 Wed, 16 Mar 2016 00:57:14 +0100 Reply by Tamir https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-32664/page-7/?recent=551563#post=551560 Quoted from Kemor

You don't have to win the division to play at higher level in the future. Div 5-6 has always been packed with pedobears, why the fuck do you suddenly care about them? SUAVY are not as scary as you'd think, all you need is a functional brain and decent teamwork. It's not like they're 14-0 or something.

Again, thats not my point... My point is that its unfair that your avarage open player has to face a prem one in the lowest div and get "eliminated" because of it. After all, he signed up to OPEN.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=32664&post=551560 Wed, 16 Mar 2016 00:55:45 +0100 Reply by kakaer https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-32664/page-6/?recent=551563#post=551559 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=32664&post=551559 Wed, 16 Mar 2016 00:53:30 +0100 Reply by Tamir https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-32664/page-6/?recent=551563#post=551558 Quoted from streep36

This thread is so dumb....

Sorry for trying to make the expirence in open better, my bad.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=32664&post=551558 Wed, 16 Mar 2016 00:47:12 +0100 Reply by streep36 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-32664/page-6/?recent=551563#post=551556 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=32664&post=551556 Wed, 16 Mar 2016 00:37:09 +0100 Reply by Tamir https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-32664/page-6/?recent=551563#post=551553 Quoted from wonszu

From your point of view, they should do smth about this team http://etf2l.org/teams/21423/ They got mhwk, and they didnt lose any official.

My thread isnt about SUAVY only, just an example, its about the issue of sandbagging itself though its Mid]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=32664&post=551553 Wed, 16 Mar 2016 00:16:57 +0100 Reply by kakaer https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-32664/page-6/?recent=551563#post=551552 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=32664&post=551552 Wed, 16 Mar 2016 00:01:51 +0100 Reply by Wonszu https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-32664/page-6/?recent=551563#post=551550 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=32664&post=551550 Tue, 15 Mar 2016 23:41:13 +0100 Reply by Moogi https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-32664/page-6/?recent=551563#post=551548 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=32664&post=551548 Tue, 15 Mar 2016 23:23:29 +0100 Reply by Tamir https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-32664/page-6/?recent=551563#post=551547 Quoted from Spreijer

[...] Do you like anime?

Nah. even though they were S21's sandbaggers.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=32664&post=551547 Tue, 15 Mar 2016 22:15:05 +0100 Reply by Sprayer40 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-32664/page-6/?recent=551563#post=551546 Quoted from Tamir

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Do you like anime?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=32664&post=551546 Tue, 15 Mar 2016 22:10:59 +0100 Reply by Tamir https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-32664/page-6/?recent=551563#post=551541 Quoted from Sprayer

I joined this team as a sub and played an official as a soldier, because nobody wanted me in high! :( At the start, even before I joined, I merced for them, and I can say they weren’t impressive, just a decent open team, but recently yes, they improved and became much better, even than some mid teams. In swiss system, if you play well you’ll play THE best teams in the current division, in old division system, you had a chance avoid them. It kinda destroys the feeling of some achievement, since only one team wins the div, but you have better games in swiss system and reaching playoffs is already an achievement, which I can understand why you are a bit sad Stereo.

I really don’t want to win honestly, our goal this sesaon was getting to playoffs really ;c. But I mean like, I still find it illogical, where’s the fairness? As I stated before, my friend told me that he did just the same in mid as he did in open with the same roster really, I didnt even come to complainQuoted from Permzilla

smh

You didnt play open in ages what to do you know plz When a good solly actually bombs itd be more efficent as open meds cant surf like you prem meds Quoted from Edgeward

btw “WHY IS OPEN 6S PLAYOFFS MID 6S?” Because Open Playoffs teams can get placed in Mid automatically next season unless they have significant changes in their roster. :)

At least there arent prem players in mid playoffs usually ^^ Quoted from Hajdzik

Because the team itself is very knew they switched half of their roster. For my personal opionion, admins should promote to start from the bottom even if players have bigger experience. I don't like personally jumping tiers with new teams. Like teams created and signing in right away for top tiers. I don't see what's the fuss about. And you're making it really silly. I've played some scrims against SUAVY as I played with them in some mixes together and I can say for sure I am open level in 6s and they were tought to play against but nothing extraordinary and definetely beatable. Lapio team proved it and draw with them. Maybe if you would put your effort in practicing instead of writing on forums you could get a chance. And what is that fight about you're in top 16 teams in open anyway and you lost against another two open teams. Even if you get into final with Suavy in playoffs is it bad to be second? It's open tier, you don't get money for winning it. You only got pixel medal on your team profile.

I didn't write this to complain again, I don't care myself, my team's goal was getting to playoffs then going mid. I do care when teams play to make the game annoying and chance-less for another team, I mean I believe open players deserve to play against... uh... Open players? Even make the changes later, just please do something against it. As someone stated, one high/prem player is fine, as he isn't playing to sandbag, more of to play with friends/help a team. But a team full of even mid players, or even 2+ high/prem ones is really just a no-no in my opinon. Look at open_squad for example, was a MASSIVE sandbag team, still got taken down though. So I'm saying It can be possible but more of a thing that shouldn't even happen.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=32664&post=551541 Tue, 15 Mar 2016 21:40:11 +0100 Reply by Sprayer40 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-32664/page-6/?recent=551563#post=551540 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=32664&post=551540 Tue, 15 Mar 2016 21:34:35 +0100