ETF2L – Latest activity in “Our community has changed.” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30855/ Reply by CHERRY COKE https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30855/page-2/?recent=523238#post=523238 Quoted from Permzilla
The difference is here that Kop was involved in the ban of his own player, so he can't really not support the ban.
Please lift the lock if you're going to respond in a locked thread :P Users have no chance of arguing with your statement otherwise.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=30855&post=523238 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 15:04:33 +0100 Reply by Permzilla https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30855/page-2/?recent=523238#post=523236 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=30855&post=523236 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 15:02:46 +0100 Reply by StormingSheep https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30855/page-2/?recent=523238#post=523225 Quoted from konr
I can understand why the Frenchies can believe him even if I don't myself. From their perspective there have been mistakes made when banning people before (even in their own team) and they went to a LAN and felt like he has played entirely the same in both environments. Sure they're dense for not seeing it but I can see where their mistrust of the AC team and trust of their teammate comes from. Whether or not they should be allowed to play in cups/other leagues/whatever is entirely the decision of the admins of those things. It's true that cheaters aren't allowed to play in anything more or less in other games but it's also true that most other games go off of VAC bans which obviously are a lot less controversial than an AC team telling you that someone cheats without a VAC ban in sight. Some people mentioned CS:GO cheaters in other threads and even in that case there are some (imo) blatant as fuck cheaters that haven't been VAC banned yet and therefore are just allowed to continue playing. It's a tough one to call. Even if you think the Frenchies are dense from what I've seen they've expressed that they'll go with whatever decision the admins (wherever they may be) make without protest in the sense that if they aren't allowed to play in a cup for example they will just deal with it. At the end of the day it's your choice if you want to scrim them or not, and if you aren't okay with playing against them in cups then expressing your discontent to admins of these cups is best, rather than to the naive Frenchies who aren't just "playing with a cheater", and are actually just arguably naive enough to believe that the AC team is wrong as they have been in the past.
what the fuck is this retard doing here]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=30855&post=523225 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 12:08:49 +0100 Reply by konr https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30855/page-2/?recent=523238#post=523223 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=30855&post=523223 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 12:00:43 +0100 Reply by joesefff https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30855/page-2/?recent=523238#post=523222 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=30855&post=523222 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 11:50:05 +0100 Reply by Oxy https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30855/page-1/?recent=523238#post=523221 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=30855&post=523221 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 11:48:08 +0100 Reply by Gentleman Jon https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30855/page-1/?recent=523238#post=523219 Quoted from quad
The issue about baud reminds me of cases like beavern and my own..
The situation is different now, there are new methods available providing more objective data than there were then. The AC team have a tightrope to walk in terms of credibility and revealing current cheat detection methods which just makes things harder in the long run, but it's worth remembering that things are always changing and an unjust ban in the past does not invalidate all bans in the future.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=30855&post=523219 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 11:33:54 +0100 Reply by StormingSheep https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30855/page-1/?recent=523238#post=523218 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=30855&post=523218 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 11:20:16 +0100 Reply by killari https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30855/page-1/?recent=523238#post=523215 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=30855&post=523215 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 10:38:17 +0100 Reply by Snooki https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30855/page-1/?recent=523238#post=523206 Quoted from Pete_
maybe they just couldn't be baudered to write a long ass apology 8)
Ffs pete, ur puns and shit... Smh]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=30855&post=523206 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:13:18 +0100 Reply by quadua https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30855/page-1/?recent=523238#post=523202 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=30855&post=523202 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 06:48:25 +0100 Reply by Rock https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30855/page-1/?recent=523238#post=523200 Quoted from Meeto
:)
:)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=30855&post=523200 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 06:13:32 +0100 Reply by Metal Gear https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30855/page-1/?recent=523238#post=523198 Quoted from rockie
[...] lol [...] says a british
:)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=30855&post=523198 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 05:22:01 +0100 Reply by Rock https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30855/page-1/?recent=523238#post=523197 Quoted from bub
I summon Septique.
lol Quoted from Meeto
I have never personally met an intelligent French man irl or online.
says a british]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=30855&post=523197 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 05:04:08 +0100 Reply by Metal Gear https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30855/page-1/?recent=523238#post=523196 Quoted from WARHURYEAH
It's because the frenchies are fucking dense which is why.
This. I have never personally met an intelligent French man irl or online.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=30855&post=523196 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 04:07:18 +0100