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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Logs.tf copy of logs?&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kaneco</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30706/page-1/?recent=519917#post=519917</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Gentleman Jon</i>
		<blockquote>This could be interesting, rankings of players in teams differ to those in mixes. It's not easy to separate the player from the effects of their team role.</blockquote>

dota has party ranking and solo ranking for this reason. Also in tf2 is even more than that, u can divide each of those into a class ranking.

You very rarely play all classes at the same level]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2014 01:25:11 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Gentleman Jon</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30706/page-1/?recent=519917#post=519916</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[This could be interesting, rankings of players in teams differ to those in mixes. It's not easy to separate the player from the effects of their team role.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2014 00:46:37 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Admirable</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30706/page-1/?recent=519917#post=519914</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Related article http://www.vanillatf2.org/2014/08/zen-and-the-art-of-balancing-a-lobby/]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2014 00:23:14 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CHERRY COKE</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30706/page-1/?recent=519917#post=519903</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from fraac</i>
		<blockquote>You could ask zoob for a zipped chunk of them, you'd have to sort them yourself. Or a lot of pcw results are linked here: http://etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28688

Gentleman Jon has thought about player ratings a lot. I've thought about it enough to pick balanced teams, which is a different and simpler problem.</blockquote>
You can get a lot of random logs without his help as numbers on the end of files are just serials. ( http://logs.tf/static/logs/log_565173.log.zip )]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2014 21:38:17 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by fraac</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30706/page-1/?recent=519917#post=519901</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[You could ask zoob for a zipped chunk of them, you'd have to sort them yourself. Or a lot of pcw results are linked here: http://etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28688

Gentleman Jon has thought about player ratings a lot. I've thought about it enough to pick balanced teams, which is a different and simpler problem.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2014 21:27:30 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CHERRY COKE</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30706/page-1/?recent=519917#post=519893</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[It depends on the server match was played on. All serveme.tf servers upload them afaik and most of the others. They are not always easy to find though.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2014 20:01:32 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Created by ElMoro</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30706/page-1/?recent=519917#post=519892</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I'm currently undergoing a project and I was wondering if the matches here at ETF2L are listed at logs.tf or some smilar website. The reasoning is because I need to parse these matches in order to test out an idea i have.

Impetus: As the number of ranking systems increase in TF2, they all are lacking in the same area; they are all point-based. Which is a problem because that does not adequately represent a number to rank players accordingly. There have been many attempts to incorporate Elo into TF2. Elo (UGC TER) however was designed for chess (or other 2 player games) but cannot be easily assigned on a player by player basis.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2014 19:53:57 +0100</pubDate>
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