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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Granary popularity vote&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by dnscodcs</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30617/page-5/?recent=518796#post=518796</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Thanks to everyone for their contribution to this thread and the poll,every opinion counts for me :D

Will be locking this thread now though,as it gets incredibly off topic. 

This is about granary and your personal opinion on the map,not about any decision to  include or exclude it (or any other map for that matter) from the etf2l map-pool. 
Your arguments are wasted here.

If you want to start a discussion presenting various arguments that may influence etf2ls decision to alter the map-pool for future seasons I suggest you make use of the "Feedback &#38; Requests" subforum during the pre-season(s).

http://etf2l.org/forum/feedback/]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2014 13:29:34 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by DamnEasy</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30617/page-5/?recent=518796#post=518795</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from T0m</i>
		<blockquote>get rid of viaduct, add gravelpit.</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2014 13:25:50 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by PhaNtom666</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30617/page-5/?recent=518796#post=518793</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[get rid of viaduct, add gravelpit.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2014 13:08:19 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by minecraftian</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30617/page-5/?recent=518796#post=518791</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Gran sucks pls give us our mighty metalworks back]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2014 12:58:05 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by elLetto</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30617/page-4/?recent=518796#post=518659</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[IMO logjam is fine, i like how easy it is to pick up momentum in it]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 21:29:52 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by konr</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30617/page-4/?recent=518796#post=518657</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from fraac</i>
		<blockquote>Yes, Permzilla, I believed ducky the first time he said that. Are you really that naive about the appearance an 'admin' tag has? While the results are for his own interest, I think we all assumed that the discussion provoking the question was a private one among admins.</blockquote>I didn't think this and Perm is not naive for thinking that we might actually take it on board when someone outright tells us something like that. He said to ignore his admin tag, how hard can that really be?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 21:24:20 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Toregant</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from fraac</i>
		<blockquote> I think we all assumed that the discussion provoking the question was a private one among admins.</blockquote>

I didn't because Ducky said it wasn't. Are you dumb is there some sort of admin code you've been working on the past few years trying to decipher]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 21:18:58 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Permzilla</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30617/page-4/?recent=518796#post=518653</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from fraac</i>
		<blockquote>Yes, Permzilla, I believed ducky the first time he said that. Are you really that naive about the appearance an 'admin' tag has? While the results are for his own interest, I think we all assumed that the discussion provoking the question was a private one among admins.</blockquote>

Are admins not allowed to have their own personal thoughts on a subject? Deciding the map pool for example is not based on every admins personal feelings on each map (bring back turbine) but on their opinion on what is best for the league.

So no I don't think a league admin having a small poll about whether people like Granary is important, if its any other individual you wouldn't have a problem with it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 20:57:28 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Boom Legshot</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30617/page-4/?recent=518796#post=518648</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from rytis</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
just because they play in ESEA it doesnt mean its any good</blockquote>

just because you don't like it doesn't make it bad]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 20:39:17 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by BigD</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30617/page-4/?recent=518796#post=518611</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I just want to play Badlands every official. So removing Granary is a step in the right direction.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 17:10:58 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by fraac</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30617/page-4/?recent=518796#post=518566</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Yes, Permzilla, I believed ducky the first time he said that. Are you really that naive about the appearance an 'admin' tag has? While the results are for his own interest, I think we all assumed that the discussion provoking the question was a private one among admins.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:11:42 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Scissors-HL</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30617/page-4/?recent=518796#post=518564</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Granary is only still in the mappool because Sonny Black is a soldier main. When will the corruption end?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:02:27 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Netsky</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-30617/page-4/?recent=518796#post=518561</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[personal opinion:
As a medic, I have mixed feelings about gran. I think mid allows  for very interesting tactics (and dead medics :( ). Second is very special since that "zone" is composed of an open and enclosed area. Last might be a bit more difficult to push because of that huge area you need to cross.
The only big problem is the fact that only 2 ways connect 2nd to mid and you have the possibility to watch both entrances without standing too far away. Gully has only 2 as well, but you need to stand far back and won't be able to cover them as good.

TLDR: the map has it's problems, but due to it's layout is has a rather unique way to be played without changing the game mode.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:55:45 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Rychius</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Collaide</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
I think you're afraid of learning how to play a new map. Get over it.</blockquote>
just because they play in ESEA it doesnt mean its any good]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:47:01 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Permzilla</title>
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    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from fraac</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

ftfy</blockquote>

<i>Quoted from ducky</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Ignore the league admin tag,this is a purely personal poll that's not going to influence ETF2Ls decision regarding the map pool of future seasons in any way.</blockquote>

<i>Quoted from ducky</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

I thought I explained myself thoroughly enough when replying to kaneco,but here it is again:

- I do not have the ability to hide the admin tag,sorry.

- This is <strong>purely personal</strong> and has no influence on decisions regarding any future map-pools

TL;DR: Don't worry about it.</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:40:36 +0100</pubDate>
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