ETF2L – Latest activity in “Why is plog banned?” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28340/ Reply by The_Burger https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28340/page-3/?recent=492580#post=492580 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=28340&post=492580 Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:43:46 +0200 Reply by Fuxx https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28340/page-3/?recent=492580#post=491276 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=28340&post=491276 Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:42:14 +0100 Reply by fkp https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28340/page-3/?recent=492580#post=491269 Quoted from 4hp
How to deny idiot phlog pyro: step 1 - get pyro with a real flamethrower step 2 - have pyro with real flamethrower airblast the idiot phlog pyro step 3 - focus idiot phlog pyro step 4 - idiot phlog pyro is now dead, and at most you lost your non-idiot real flamethrower pyro but it's not like he's that useful anyway.
When idiot phlog pyro use MMPHH-crits, you have not many chances to stay alive. 6-7 seconds.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=28340&post=491269 Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:49:55 +0100 Reply by Freakie https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28340/page-3/?recent=492580#post=491132 Quoted from Zangetsu
it is banned because its total shit just like vitasaw,atomizer and many other useless weapons
Funny, because the Atomizer is super strong and the Vita-Saw can have a massive impact.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=28340&post=491132 Mon, 24 Mar 2014 00:29:44 +0100 Reply by Goreston https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28340/page-3/?recent=492580#post=491129 Quoted from Zangetsu
it is banned because its total shit just like vitasaw,atomizer and many other useless weapons
I feel like I'm responding to an obvious troll here, but Atomizer isn't banned, and Vitasaw isn't banned for being useless - in fact it's the opposite. If one medic runs it, the other medic has to as well, or be at a constant uber disadvantage.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=28340&post=491129 Mon, 24 Mar 2014 00:14:56 +0100 Reply by 13thDoctor https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28340/page-3/?recent=492580#post=491115 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=28340&post=491115 Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:03:10 +0100 Reply by Barvazon https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28340/page-3/?recent=492580#post=491102 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=28340&post=491102 Sun, 23 Mar 2014 18:32:35 +0100 Reply by Goreston https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28340/page-3/?recent=492580#post=491090 Quoted from 4hp
How to deny idiot phlog pyro: step 1 - get pyro with a real flamethrower step 2 - have pyro with real flamethrower airblast the idiot phlog pyro step 3 - focus idiot phlog pyro step 4 - idiot phlog pyro is now dead, and at most you lost your non-idiot real flamethrower pyro but it's not like he's that useful anyway.
The problem with these posts is that they assume pyro with phlog would play the same as pyro without phlog. Of course it's easy to shut him down if he has no support, but in organised play that's not going to be the case. Doing 200 damage is laughably easy, especially if the medic treats you as a damage class and hands out heals accordingly. You could start every KOTH round by m1-ing across the point, activating mmmph, and forcing the enemy team to either focus you and die to the rest of your team or ignore you and die to crits. On top of that, phlog combines well with unlocks like the whip, the concheror and the quick fix, just to name a few examples off of the top of my head. You're basically trading your pyro for the ability to have kritz and uber/quick fix at the same time.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=28340&post=491090 Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:25:00 +0100 Reply by wpminnows https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28340/page-3/?recent=492580#post=491060 Quoted from dodgydogman
Because it, like many badly designed weapons in tf2, is worse overall compared to its stock counterpart but has a mechanic which allows easy cheap kills. This is no fun to play against.
it doesn't have airblast so it's probably the most fun flamethrower to play against]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=28340&post=491060 Sun, 23 Mar 2014 02:33:35 +0100 Reply by RaNDoMiZe https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28340/page-2/?recent=492580#post=491008 Quoted from 4hp
How to deny idiot phlog pyro: step 1 - get pyro with a real flamethrower step 2 - have pyro with real flamethrower airblast the idiot phlog pyro step 3 - focus idiot phlog pyro step 4 - idiot phlog pyro is now dead, and at most you lost your non-idiot real flamethrower pyro but it's not like he's that useful anyway.
What if the phlog pyro isn't an idiot? Step 1 Get a sniper with a rifle that can headshot Step 2 Have sniper kill the airblasting pyro Step 3 Uber phlog pyro Step 4 The whole enemy team is now dead and at most you lost your teleporter entrance that the enemy spy sapped before getting his skull bashed in with a wrench.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=28340&post=491008 Sat, 22 Mar 2014 17:11:13 +0100 Reply by 13thDoctor https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28340/page-2/?recent=492580#post=490995 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=28340&post=490995 Sat, 22 Mar 2014 15:36:47 +0100 Reply by Morgus https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28340/page-2/?recent=492580#post=490987 Quoted from dodgydogman
[...] What about my comment made you ask that? Did you even read what I said :D. Its not op, its cheap. Cheap doesn't belong in competition in my opinion. This link explains better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6GaPkkGZGw
It can't be cheap if you can't get the crits, against a half decent team you won't get them, and even then, that pyro would die pretty soon(or do nothing useful)]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=28340&post=490987 Sat, 22 Mar 2014 15:14:07 +0100 Reply by popcorp https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28340/page-2/?recent=492580#post=490978 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=28340&post=490978 Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:05:15 +0100 Reply by Goreston https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28340/page-2/?recent=492580#post=490977 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=28340&post=490977 Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:00:51 +0100 Reply by dodgydogman https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-28340/page-2/?recent=492580#post=490919 Quoted from Morgus
[...] So you can't kill a pyro without airblast before he builds the phlog meter?
What about my comment made you ask that? Did you even read what I said :D. Its not op, its cheap. Cheap doesn't belong in competition in my opinion. This link explains better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6GaPkkGZGw]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=28340&post=490919 Fri, 21 Mar 2014 21:48:51 +0100