ETF2L – Latest activity in “Maps for season 15 :O” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24705/ Reply by RazorsEdge https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24705/page-17/?recent=443320#post=443320 Quoted from SuperGunnar
[...] I'm kind of new, and have only played Freight in a few mixes, but I loved it. Could you (or others) please explain why it's such a hated map?
I guess many people hated it because of 2 reasons: 1. The sniper line on mid is too big. One sniper can win the whole midfight. 2. The last is easy to hold. It happened several times that the round timer was hit. While defending the last. And also freight allowed plenty of games to end in a 0-0.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=24705&post=443320 Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:28:58 +0200 Reply by Russian Guyovich https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24705/page-17/?recent=443320#post=443313 Quoted from SuperGunnar
[...] I'm kind of new, and have only played Freight in a few mixes, but I loved it. Could you (or others) please explain why it's such a hated map?
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=34075899&postcount=5 Also, what about Ashville? My experience with the map is limited, but it appears to be played quite a bit in NA.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=24705&post=443313 Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:35:33 +0200 Reply by SuperGunnar https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24705/page-17/?recent=443320#post=443311 Quoted from Spike Himself
Freight was in the season once. Everyone hated it. Several seasons later people forgot how much they hated it and wanted it back again. Then everyone was reminded of how much they hated it. And this, kids, is why you get history lessons in school!
I'm kind of new, and have only played Freight in a few mixes, but I loved it. Could you (or others) please explain why it's such a hated map?]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=24705&post=443311 Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:14:14 +0200 Reply by Dukermons https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24705/page-17/?recent=443320#post=443162 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=24705&post=443162 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:56:39 +0200 Reply by Spike Himself https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24705/page-17/?recent=443320#post=443161 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=24705&post=443161 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:45:48 +0200 Reply by E-thug https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24705/page-16/?recent=443320#post=443158 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=24705&post=443158 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:41:23 +0200 Reply by zhoxk96 https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24705/page-16/?recent=443320#post=443152 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=24705&post=443152 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:59:41 +0200 Reply by Schocky https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24705/page-16/?recent=443320#post=443132 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=24705&post=443132 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 01:13:23 +0200 Reply by BeachTerror https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24705/page-16/?recent=443320#post=443111 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=24705&post=443111 Tue, 09 Apr 2013 23:13:30 +0200 Reply by bigcactusTR https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24705/page-16/?recent=443320#post=443103 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=24705&post=443103 Tue, 09 Apr 2013 23:02:16 +0200 Reply by Sketch https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24705/page-16/?recent=443320#post=442913 Quoted from Link!
can we all agree that the community maps that we gave multiple chances (both versions of obscure, freight etc.) are bad and don't need to be mentioned anymore? thx
yes]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=24705&post=442913 Tue, 09 Apr 2013 00:05:33 +0200 Reply by nathancounye https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24705/page-16/?recent=443320#post=442912 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=24705&post=442912 Mon, 08 Apr 2013 23:57:23 +0200 Reply by Sketch https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24705/page-16/?recent=443320#post=442898 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=24705&post=442898 Mon, 08 Apr 2013 22:48:55 +0200 Reply by eXs.Tangopopper https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24705/page-16/?recent=443320#post=442888 Quoted from Monkeh
[...] Not sure 'healthy' is the right adjective but it isn't be a bad thing to ease new maps in, snakewater and gullywash have made it through the community map selection process already and process is doing very nicely at the moment thank you very much. Having 2 or 3 new maps would be a mistake imho, 1 is all we need, if any, (see the above examples for single maps, eased in as single new maps that have hung around), so then it's a decision on just adding 1 or replacing 1. Replacing badlands wouldn't kill anyone and would make it a lot less played in pcw's, forcing teams to play the new maps even more, maybe even work out some new strats and find more enjoyment in that aspect of 6v6 TF2 than rolling out on badlands for the thirty-millionth time.. Maybe 'healthy' is the right adjective after all... I'll be writing a 10,000 word blog post entitled, 'How cp_badlands killed TF2', check it out sometime.
If people didn't like badlands they just wouldn't play it as much. The fact that people still play it a lot despite the diminishing returns in terms of results is testament to how enjoyable it is. I do agree that there should one or two new maps, to encourage the working out new strats side of it, but I don't think we have enough community-approved maps at the moment to start replacing ones which most people like. If we do get another snakewater/process level of approval from a community map then maybe, just maybe, we could think about reducing the number of badlands games a season to two. Maybe.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=24705&post=442888 Mon, 08 Apr 2013 21:51:54 +0200 Reply by Dukermons https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24705/page-16/?recent=443320#post=442884 Quoted from Sketch
Do you not think it might be healthy if not this season but next to have snake, gully, process and 2-3 new maps. Rather than the old timers. I'm not suggesting to get rid of them but one season without would bring a lot of variety
Not sure 'healthy' is the right adjective but it isn't be a bad thing to ease new maps in, snakewater and gullywash have made it through the community map selection process already and process is doing very nicely at the moment thank you very much. Having 2 or 3 new maps would be a mistake imho, 1 is all we need, if any, (see the above examples for single maps, eased in as single new maps that have hung around), so then it's a decision on just adding 1 or replacing 1. Replacing badlands wouldn't kill anyone and would make it a lot less played in pcw's, forcing teams to play the new maps even more, maybe even work out some new strats and find more enjoyment in that aspect of 6v6 TF2 than rolling out on badlands for the thirty-millionth time.. Maybe 'healthy' is the right adjective after all... I'll be writing a 10,000 word blog post entitled, 'How cp_badlands killed TF2', check it out sometime.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=24705&post=442884 Mon, 08 Apr 2013 21:10:10 +0200