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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Video ads with instant sound&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by blitzkrieg</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24656/page-2/?recent=438184#post=438184</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Why should the money coming from the ads be public?
Doesn´t concern anyone but the people who run the site.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:35:55 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Vlijm</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24656/page-2/?recent=438184#post=438176</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Spike Himself</i>
		<blockquote>People forget that admins are admins because they're there to make money. Jesus.</blockquote>

I knew it Spike :(]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:26:36 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Russian Guyovich</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24656/page-2/?recent=438184#post=438172</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Casual, are you fo real?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:06:02 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by weaselo</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24656/page-2/?recent=438184#post=438169</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[The E in ETF2L actually stands for Embezzlement.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:46:52 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Netsky</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24656/page-2/?recent=438184#post=438165</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I haven't even been given a hug in all that time Q_Q and hugs are free!

As far as I can remember the money from ads has always gone into prize pools - in the early days it was to get some prize money for "fun cups" such as scout 2on2 or bball or whatever - now most flows into the regular season.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:03:52 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CursedGhost</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24656/page-2/?recent=438184#post=438113</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from emb</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

I'm curious where this bizarre entitlement stems from. Are you seriously comparing not blocking a small ad while viewing the site, to directly donating money?</blockquote>

Entitlement to what? Knowing where money flows to in a 'community driven league'? As Spike pointed out, we have the impression that admins are managing etf2l in their free time (and not get paid for it), yes it would be bad if that was just a front to placate us.

I'm not against making money, just that you're honest about it.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:02:14 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by emb</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24656/page-2/?recent=438184#post=438086</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Casual</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Yes that would be very very bad. This is the part where you'd announce how much exactly you pay out the admins (maybe not to individuals, rather the total sum of money that isn't going directly towards supporting etf2l itself).</blockquote>

I'm curious where this bizarre entitlement stems from. Are you seriously comparing not blocking a small ad while viewing the site, to directly donating money?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:30:34 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24656/page-2/?recent=438184#post=437933</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[People forget that admins are admins because they care about the game and the scene. They're not there to make money. Jesus.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:29:12 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Kaneco</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24656/page-2/?recent=438184#post=437702</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Casual</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

That... is a horrible excuse. Just say that you will not make this public.

Also about the subject of prizes, I thought sponsors brought all the prizes?</blockquote>

It's against adsense Terms of service (and most advertising companies for that matter) to disclose any values to the public. This is not a reasonable request

I don't need to know how much you make from ads, as long as you're putting it towards repaying server costs / prize pools.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 17:23:33 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CursedGhost</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24656/page-2/?recent=438184#post=437699</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the info, CanFo.

<i>Quoted from Trath</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Also if they did take some money to their pocket, would that be a bad thing?</blockquote>

Yes that would be very very bad. This is the part where you'd announce how much exactly you pay out the admins (maybe not to individuals, rather the total sum of money that isn't going directly towards supporting etf2l itself).]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 17:13:48 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by trath</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24656/page-2/?recent=438184#post=437693</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from CanFo</i>
		<blockquote>[...]
The (little) money made from the current ads goes only into ETF2L related activities, mainly into prize pools. I am not going to make a public list what has been paid out and when (no league or site does that), you have to trust me on that or ask the players who won any prizes in the past. If you do not trust me, keep your adblock on.

edited for clarification</blockquote>

I DONT BELIEVE YOU I KNOW U TAKE THE MONEY ALL FOR YOURSELF!!@!

Seriously guys you don't have to know what goes on behind the scenes, if you really think they taking money to their pocket when they say they don't, you have trust issues.

Also if they did take some money to their pocket, would that be a bad thing?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:38:17 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24656/page-2/?recent=438184#post=437692</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Casual</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

That... is a horrible excuse. Just say that you will not make this public.

Also about the subject of prizes, I thought sponsors brought all the prizes?</blockquote>
Not all. E.g. for Season 14, ~€500 is sponsored and the rest comes out of ETF2L funds.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:21:44 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CursedGhost</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24656/page-2/?recent=438184#post=437690</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from CanFo</i>
		<blockquote>[...](no league or site does that)</blockquote>

That... is a horrible excuse. Just say that you will not make this public.

Also about the subject of prizes, I thought sponsors brought all the prizes?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:19:51 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24656/page-2/?recent=438184#post=437677</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Crafz</i>
		<blockquote>I demand more transparency about the money flow or adblock will stay on.</blockquote>
The (little) money made from the current ads goes only into ETF2L related activities, mainly into prize pools. I am not going to make a public list what has been paid out and when (no league or site does that), you have to trust me on that or ask the players who won any prizes in the past. If you do not trust me, keep your adblock on.

edited for clarification]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:14:52 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by nitro_mint</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24656/page-2/?recent=438184#post=437606</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I demand more transparency about the money flow or adblock will stay on.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 05:59:04 +0100</pubDate>
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