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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Arie&#039;s anti-ddos plugin&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24059/page-3/?recent=428178#post=428178</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from nTraum</i>
		<blockquote>IIRC thide_server also blocks "view game info" in friends list.</blockquote>thats not true, if the guy is on friends list it shows ip, just doesnt show players on server]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:49:57 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Specter91</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24059/page-3/?recent=428178#post=428176</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from skeej</i>
		<blockquote>[...]</blockquote>

no, but atleast we proceeded to the next round in the 6th cup]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:44:30 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Juniorsatan</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24059/page-3/?recent=428178#post=428175</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[IIRC thide_server also blocks "view game info" in friends list.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:42:19 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by skeej</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24059/page-3/?recent=428178#post=428174</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from minimoose</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Does this simple protection extend to poaching players and then still losing to pyrogen?</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:41:15 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Animal</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24059/page-3/?recent=428178#post=428172</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Snyyppis</i>
		<blockquote>The third server we played on was a fairly random one, though. And we were all offline on steam with profiles set to private at that point. Only took the ddos'er 5 minutes to kill that server.</blockquote>it takes 1min to open server browser and find ur names on passworded server list

hide_server 1 works better than going offline (unless ddosser is someone on friends list)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:38:31 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Snyppsis</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24059/page-3/?recent=428178#post=428164</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[The third server we played on was a fairly random one, though. And we were all offline on steam with profiles set to private at that point. Only took the ddos'er 5 minutes to kill that server.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:52:31 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by toasty.</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24059/page-3/?recent=428178#post=428158</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I was watching on stv last night and the first thing that comes up when you join the relay is "crack tv". So since these guys watch all the prem players on twitch they must know all the server ip's by now anyway.

I'm guessing you need need some secret match server that nobody ever uses in pcw's and doesn't have a name that shows up on the relay either.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:14:55 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Juniorsatan</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24059/page-3/?recent=428178#post=428155</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Well, if I understood correctly, the ddos isn't game specific. The cvar helps obfuscating the ip address of the server. As soon as the attacker knows on which machine the srcds is running, ddosing is possible again.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:59:03 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24059/page-3/?recent=428178#post=428153</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from F2</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

A quick question:
Will hide_server 1 actually prevent this?
Or will it just make it less likely to happen?</blockquote>
hide_server 1 in combination with all players going offline on Steam and setting their steam profiles to private can prevent the attacker from knowing the server IP and therefore makes it less likely, the server is getting attacked. It will not defend you against an incoming attack.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:48:03 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Eledorian</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24059/page-2/?recent=428178#post=428151</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Koala</i>
		<blockquote>Bet it's some skid with some WinGUI shyet, no smart man would do such a lame and useless ddosing, bet it's some WinGUI pr0 l33t ddos tool, or at best some guy who has just discovered linux and slowloris.pl. Assuming it's no huge tfn2k etc, some simple protection should to the job.</blockquote>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:43:22 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by F2</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24059/page-3/?recent=428178#post=428152</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from CanFo</i>
		<blockquote>Things that might help:
- inform your provider, that you expect DNS reflection attacks. He may increase the upload of the server, to be able to discard all the useless traffic arriving
- tell all participating players to 
 - set their steam profile to private
 - go offline on steam
 - and set hide_server 1</blockquote>

A quick question:
Will hide_server 1 actually prevent this?
Or will it just make it less likely to happen?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:43:22 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Specter91</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24059/page-2/?recent=428178#post=428149</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from minimoose</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Does this simple protection extend to you making teams fold by stealing players?</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:37:04 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Minimoose</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24059/page-2/?recent=428178#post=428148</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Koala</i>
		<blockquote>Bet it's some skid with some WinGUI shyet, no smart man would do such a lame and useless ddosing, bet it's some WinGUI pr0 l33t ddos tool, or at best some guy who has just discovered linux and slowloris.pl. Assuming it's no huge tfn2k etc, some simple protection should to the job.</blockquote>

Does this simple protection extend to stupid forum posts as well?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:34:24 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Fawwles</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24059/page-2/?recent=428178#post=428144</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from nTraum</i>
		<blockquote>[...]

Nice buzzword bingo. Go ahead and explain your 'simple protection' methods please. :)</blockquote>

the cloud]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:12:06 +0100</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Juniorsatan</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-24059/page-2/?recent=428178#post=428143</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Koala</i>
		<blockquote>Bet it's some skid with some WinGUI shyet, no smart man would do such a lame and useless ddosing, bet it's some WinGUI pr0 l33t ddos tool, or at best some guy who has just discovered linux and slowloris.pl. Assuming it's no huge tfn2k etc, some simple protection should to the job.</blockquote>

Nice buzzword bingo. Go ahead and explain your 'simple protection' methods please. :)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:53:25 +0100</pubDate>
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