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	<title>ETF2L &#8211; Latest activity in &#8220;Forum rule F.3&#8221;</title>
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    	    <title>Reply by Iplaynaked</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-21638/page-2/?recent=388796#post=388796</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from kaidus</i>
		<blockquote>This seems important.</blockquote>
it is]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:50:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by kaidus</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-21638/page-2/?recent=388796#post=388647</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[This seems important.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:59:19 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CursedGhost</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-21638/page-2/?recent=388796#post=388646</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I suppose my response was more towards my own experience on other forums, but even here you have the original Frag clip thread (which admittedly was easily recreated but still), it didn't need to be closed yet for reason that had nothing to do with the purpose of the thread it was.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:51:28 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Spike Himself</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-21638/page-2/?recent=388796#post=388436</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Casual</i>
		<blockquote>Clueless admins lock the thread.</blockquote>

There aren't too many of those though! :D

And, as CanFo said, if a thread gets locked, anyone can !admin and ask for it to be unlocked.

In fact you can !admin and ask for a lot of things. I propose we all !admin for SonnyBlack today to ask him various random questions regarding all sorts of rules (or other things). If you get a pleasant, unpleasant or amusing response, make sure to bump the chatlogs of strangeness thread with it.

If you don't know anything to ask him, here are some tips: wildcards, spreadsheets, default dates, higher div elitism, rollouts, mid-game class swapping, calendars, scheduling, one night cups.. Be creative!

&#60;3

(inb4 s12 signups)]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 04:25:24 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Poop</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-21638/page-2/?recent=388796#post=388412</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[wtf is this thread about, such random shit to look into]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:10:10 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by ashkan</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-21638/page-2/?recent=388796#post=388288</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Casual</i>
		<blockquote>I never understood why people make rules that punish someone/something else rather than the actual offender.</blockquote>

Moderators do punish offenders.


		<blockquote>Suppose you're a disgruntled user and you want someone's thread locked:
Make a new account, flame/bump the thread.
Clueless admins lock the thread.</blockquote>

Pretty much what CanFo said. Only old, dead threads subject to senseless bumping (i.e. necroing) are locked. As for flamed threads, they're only <strong>possibly</strong> locked in extreme cases involving several posters.


		<blockquote>IT'S NOT HARD</blockquote>

That's what she said.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:16:47 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-21638/page-2/?recent=388796#post=388283</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Casual: I do not see the problem, to be honest. If an inactive thread gets bumped with a simple "lol" or something similar, why not lock the thread? Also, if you have legitimate interest in commenting on a locked thread you may request that the thread is reopened, it is not that hard!

edit: Also, that is exactly what we are doing, I fail to see your point.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:02:21 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CursedGhost</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-21638/page-2/?recent=388796#post=388282</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I never understood why people make rules that punish someone/something else rather than the actual offender.

Suppose you're a disgruntled user and you want someone's thread locked:
Make a new account, flame/bump the thread.
Clueless admins lock the thread.

Basically the actions of 1 user has caused the admins to punish anyone who has a legitimate interest in the thread. Instead just (temp)ban the offending user and/or remove his posts (in case of blatant spam).

IT'S NOT HARD]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:51:17 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by 2nuts</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-21638/page-2/?recent=388796#post=388264</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from Hildreth</i>
		<blockquote>tbh I am just glad you people read the rules!</blockquote>

what do you mean "you people?"!!

bump]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:57:22 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by zzott</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-21638/page-1/?recent=388796#post=388261</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[wait, there are rules now?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:04:51 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Iplaynaked</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-21638/page-1/?recent=388796#post=388227</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[I guess that protects against individual corrupt admins but not really against an entire administration. I think there should be set punishments apart from bigotry then people should just be perma banned for life. Unless they're talking about demo man that guys a fucking shit]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:51:34 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-21638/page-1/?recent=388796#post=388220</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Isn't this enough?

		<blockquote>In general, offenders start out with a 1-day ban. After that, the ban length will be doubled for each rule-break. Some offences, such as bigotry or ignoring admins, will be dealt with more severely. This is up to the moderator’s discretion. If you wish to submit a complaint about an admin’s behaviour or a moderation procedure, please do so by contacting a different admin.</blockquote>]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:51:44 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by Iplaynaked</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-21638/page-1/?recent=388796#post=388171</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[<i>Quoted from CanFo</i>
		<blockquote>Any suggestion how the updated rule should look like, Swarlz? Could you maybe show me the updated rule in a nice MS Paint picture or a poem?</blockquote>

Swarlz revised rule F.3 "If you go a bumping
or pointless bullshit dumping
please make sure you have a valid reason

Because admins will be a jumping 
and punishing your slumping 
with a warning, 1 day ban or even more."

I realise this edit is still open to exploitation with unlimited time ban. But I think it narrows the scope for exploitation down.]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 23:46:50 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by raugnioz</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-21638/page-1/?recent=388796#post=388157</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[2hour ban :D]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 22:35:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    	    <title>Reply by CannonFodd3r</title>
    	    <link>https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-21638/page-1/?recent=388796#post=388155</link>
    	    <description><![CDATA[Any suggestion how the updated rule should look like, Swarlz? Could you maybe show me the updated rule in a nice MS Paint picture or a poem?]]></description>
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    	    <pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 22:10:00 +0200</pubDate>
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