ETF2L – Latest activity in “Reconsidering the way teams are treated after a ban?” https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16773/ Reply by Spike Himself https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16773/page-4/?recent=304429#post=304429 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16773&post=304429 Tue, 17 May 2011 22:21:55 +0200 Reply by TelekineticBear https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16773/page-4/?recent=304429#post=304416 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16773&post=304416 Tue, 17 May 2011 20:55:53 +0200 Reply by Grimm https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16773/page-4/?recent=304429#post=304327 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16773&post=304327 Tue, 17 May 2011 16:07:41 +0200 Reply by konr https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16773/page-4/?recent=304429#post=303903 Quoted from Oxy
[...] +1 Can't admins stop banned people posting on the forums too?
They're allowed to continue to post due to the fact that they might want to appeal, but honestly I think the better option is to ban them from both and make them go on IRC is they want to discuss it.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16773&post=303903 Sun, 15 May 2011 19:55:05 +0200 Reply by konr https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16773/page-4/?recent=304429#post=303902 Quoted from doks
stop the qq. happened to us last season. we actually finished all games. had no penalties or warnings. played every game IN time... and one player got doubleacc ban - all results droped. so? what did we do ? signed up for next season. its div5.. who cares - sign up next season for div4 and show what you are capable off
Exactly this. End of thread.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16773&post=303902 Sun, 15 May 2011 19:53:01 +0200 Reply by Ghostface https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16773/page-4/?recent=304429#post=303144 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16773&post=303144 Thu, 12 May 2011 20:33:53 +0200 Reply by emb https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16773/page-3/?recent=304429#post=303142 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16773&post=303142 Thu, 12 May 2011 20:32:09 +0200 Reply by Ghostface https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16773/page-3/?recent=304429#post=303137 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16773&post=303137 Thu, 12 May 2011 20:27:05 +0200 Reply by Oxy https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16773/page-3/?recent=304429#post=303131 Quoted from Ghostface
I'm just gonna go on and say that in real team sports, a player who takes performance improving drugs(steroids) is sanctioned. He gets a fine and a suspension(our case, a ban). The club is presumed to know nothing of this(which is prolly the same in dakkat's case. Though I know of players who have tried and even succeeded in this kind of backalley deal by getting a banned player a new account). Last season Bad News got dropped when Sev was found to be Lazyshadow. That was too harsh and it ruined their work for the whole season, though they managed to pull through and recover. Imo teams shouldn't be sanctioned for this type of thing unless it can be proven that they took a cheater by their own risk and will. Or make them play their games again where the fag was implicated and be given 1-2 extra weeks.
How far would this go though? Because if you just made them play games which they won then how would a win on each map or golden caps work? Basically i just think it was all be too complicated. Just need to rule it so that teams get penalized, or don't get penalized, or is down to admins discretion.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16773&post=303131 Thu, 12 May 2011 20:19:05 +0200 Reply by Hildreth https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16773/page-3/?recent=304429#post=303127 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16773&post=303127 Thu, 12 May 2011 20:14:30 +0200 Reply by dr icecream https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16773/page-3/?recent=304429#post=303116 Quoted from Ghostface
I'm just gonna go on and say that in real team sports, a player who takes performance improving drugs(steroids) is sanctioned. He gets a fine and a suspension(our case, a ban). The club is presumed to know nothing of this(which is prolly the same in dakkat's case. Though I know of players who have tried and even succeeded in this kind of backalley deal by getting a banned player a new account). Last season Bad News got dropped when Sev was found to be Lazyshadow. That was too harsh and it ruined their work for the whole season, though they managed to pull through and recover. Imo teams shouldn't be sanctioned for this type of thing unless it can be proven that they took a cheater by their own risk and will. Or make them play their games again where the fag was implicated and be given 1-2 extra weeks.
That's what I was trying to point, that's for the extra clarification :) Again, I'm not asking for any special kind of settlement because it's one of our teams, but for people to be a bit reasonable to the teams that are getting ripped off because of things like this in the future.]]> generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16773&post=303116 Thu, 12 May 2011 20:02:05 +0200 Reply by Ghostface https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16773/page-3/?recent=304429#post=303104 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16773&post=303104 Thu, 12 May 2011 19:32:44 +0200 Reply by Spike Himself https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16773/page-3/?recent=304429#post=303097 generator=rsdiscuss&baseurl=https://staging.etf2l.org&feed=forum&forum=league&topic=16773&post=303097 Thu, 12 May 2011 19:12:43 +0200 Reply by tapley https://staging.etf2l.org/forum/league/topic-16773/page-3/?recent=304429#post=303093 Quoted from luzik
imo a player is legit until otherwise proved. so no defaults for games where the hacker has played. he/she just doesn't play for the next year.
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